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Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by throwaway48476 »

petersellers wrote: post #385
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #355

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>A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. It happened accidentally (ie against the wishes of Twitter management) in 2016, they successfully suppressed him in 2020, and then Elon gave MAGA that platform in 2024, leading to DJT's successful election. As long as X is seen a kingmaker, someone will find it profitable…

> Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. I really don't think so, at least not in isolation. It probably contributed a small part but the right wing media machine is multi-faceted. There were a lot of podcasters (i.e. Joe Rogan), comedians and youtubers all publicly in support of a second DJT presidency and I think that had a much bigger factor overall than Twitter.

The media gets their news from Twitter and Twitter drives the questions the media asks. It's indirectly a bigger factor than you give it credit for.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

mh- wrote: post #242
bpodgursky wrote: post #224

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https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats You can judge for yourself whether bluesky is a competitive threat.

That link errors ("Failed to fetch" banner on the page) for me. Perhaps hugged to death, but I would be interested in the DAUs/MAUs if they're available.

It goes up and down. The stats site, not BlueSky, that seems to only go down.

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Post by ceejayoz »

throw310822 wrote: post #302
mrweasel wrote: post #130

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More and more I think Musk managed to his take over of Twitter pretty successfully. X still isn't as strong a brand as Twitter where, but it's doing okay. A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there. The only issue is that Musk vastly overpaid for Twitter, but if he plans to keep it and use it for his political ambitions, that might not matter. Also remember tha…

And btw, how many features have been brought live since Musk's takeover? If I'm not wrong, at least: long tweets, paid subscriptions, community notes, native video (?), grok... Anything else? Seems quite a lot after years of stagnation.

Long tweets: 2017 (https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/07/twitter-officially-expands...)

Subscriptions: 2021 (https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-launches-subscrip...)

Community Notes: 2021 (https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-bir...)

Native video: 2012-2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) / https://www.videonuze.com/article/twitter-unveils-30-second-...)

Musk buys Twitter: late 2022.

That leaves… Grok.

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Post by nradov »

falcor84 wrote: post #195
madeofpalk wrote: post #139

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One would imagine that a CEO lacking power is the precise reason a company would perform poorly.

Indeed. It was such a paradoxical situation from the start, with her both reporting to Musk as the chairman and owner, while at the same time "managing" him as the CTO. I'm surprised that the charade went on for as long as it did.

I mean I've been in a few jobs where I had to "manage" my boss in order to accomplish anything.

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Post by rockemsockem »

amrocha wrote: post #200
rockemsockem wrote: post #181

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I will fondly remind folks that Grok isn't even the first LLM to become a Nazi on Twitter. Remember Tay Tweets? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) Honestly I really don't think a bad release of an LLM that was rolled back is really the condemnation you think it is.

There’s a difference between a 3rd party twitter bot and grok. And it’s not a “bad release”, it’s been like this ever since it launched. Funny how ChatGPT is vanilla and grok somehow has a new racist thing to say every other week.

It absolutely has not been claiming that it's "MechaHitler" since it was released.

Try.

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Post by quantified »

woah wrote: post #247
mandmandam wrote: post #126

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> she was not to blame. Fall guys bear some of the blame in the fall. My long-held [0] personal theory - borne out by everything Musk has done, and by who bought Twitter - is that it was bought to curb the possibility of large positive social movements along the lines of OWS or BLM. Enabling that can entail being useless at your supposed job, while doing your actual job (which deserves some amount of blame, from a nu…

It's conspiratorial thinking to assume that everything that happens in the world is perfectly executed by omniscient villains with 20/20 hindsight. Maybe a formerly-brilliant but drug-addled rich guy just bought a social media platform with bad fundamentals at the height of its valuation and then mismanaged it while flailing around with other ventures and political adventures. Occam's razor.

You are conveniently omitting his reason to buy it. Personal megaphone and shortly thereafter LLM training data are the simplest reasons.

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Post by rockemsockem »

blargey wrote: post #267
rockemsockem wrote: post #181

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I will fondly remind folks that Grok isn't even the first LLM to become a Nazi on Twitter. Remember Tay Tweets? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) Honestly I really don't think a bad release of an LLM that was rolled back is really the condemnation you think it is.

I don’t think the third+ flavor of “bad release” this year, of the sort nobody else in this crowded space suffers from, is as innocuous as you think it is. And Tay was a non-LLM user account released a full 6 years before ChatGPT; you might as well bring up random users’ markov chains.

I posted the Wikipedia page, do you really think I don't know how long ago Tay was? I don't think the capabilities matter if we're just talking about chat bots being racist online.

Also IDK what you mean by third+ flavor? I'm not familiar with other bad Grok releases, but I don't really use it, I just see it's responses on Twitter. Also do you not remember the Google image model that made the founding fathers different races by default?

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