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Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by ceejayoz »

sunaookami wrote: post #434
ceejayoz wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long tweets: 2017 ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/07/twitter-officially-expands... ) Subscriptions: 2021 ( https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-launches-subscrip... ) Community Notes: 2021 ( https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-bir... ) Native video: 2012-2015 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) / https://www.videonuze.com/artic…

Chronological feed by default with a setting that actually sticks, private favorites, new media gallery, "E2E" messages. (side note: Birdwatch was a way better name than Community Notes)

> Chronological feed by default with a setting that actually sticks…

Musk killed third-party clients, which all had that already.

> private favorites

To conceal the plunge in activity post-acquisition, and to soothe the owner. https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-boosted-elon-musk-tw...

> new media gallery

We're not really calling a bit of a redesign "innovation", are we?

> "E2E" messages

Anything using Twitter for this in a scenario where said encryption is important is a loon, IMO. That's what Signal is for.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by ceejayoz »

throw310822 wrote: post #440
sunaookami wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chronological feed by default with a setting that actually sticks, private favorites, new media gallery, "E2E" messages. (side note: Birdwatch was a way better name than Community Notes)

Private likes too.

They renamed favorites to likes. It's the same thing.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by TheAlchemist »

Hoasi wrote: post #50

X has been nothing short of an exercise in brand destruction. However, despite all the drama, it still stands, it still exists, and it remains relevant.

I was following fintwit quite a lot at a time, and some accounts already moved to Bluesky some time ago. I'm periodically checking via nitter, and 90% of answers are spam at this point.

It will take some time for complete destruction, but the path is quite clear.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by contrast »

quantified wrote: post #408
woah wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's conspiratorial thinking to assume that everything that happens in the world is perfectly executed by omniscient villains with 20/20 hindsight. Maybe a formerly-brilliant but drug-addled rich guy just bought a social media platform with bad fundamentals at the height of its valuation and then mismanaged it while flailing around with other ventures and political adventures. Occam's razor.

You are conveniently omitting his reason to buy it. Personal megaphone and shortly thereafter LLM training data are the simplest reasons.

I think the GP is suggesting a simple explanation of why it went badly, since that is the subject of the thread, rather than an explanation of why Musk bought Twitter. No need for conspiratorial accusations of conveniently omitting anything.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by ceejayoz »

throw310822 wrote: post #438
ceejayoz wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long tweets: 2017 ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/07/twitter-officially-expands... ) Subscriptions: 2021 ( https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-launches-subscrip... ) Community Notes: 2021 ( https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-bir... ) Native video: 2012-2015 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) / https://www.videonuze.com/artic…

Thanks for the reply, but you get a number of things wrong. The 2017 "long tweets" are actually 280 characters. 4k characters tweets have been introduced in 2023. The "subscription feature" is a content creator one, while I meant paid blue check. "Community notes" had not been publicly launched before Musk did, renaming them from "Birdwatch". The "native video" feature you mention is Vine, which had been discontinued…

> The 2017 "long tweets" are actually 280 characters.

So, longer.

> The "subscription feature" is a content creator one, while I meant paid blue check.

I consider the paid blue checks a negative, not a positive.

> "Community notes" had not been publicly launched before Musk did

As with the long tweets, this then becomes a pretty minor tweak.

> The "native video" feature you mention is Vine, which had been discontinued.

I mentioned three iterations. The last link, in 2015, is the current native video handling.

If I, personally, went to my boss and rattled this off as a list of primary personal achievements in the past couple of years, they'd say "you're padding things"… and I'm a single developer.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by [deleted] »

tonymet wrote: post #335
leakycap wrote: post #42

When I saw this news, my first thought was that she lasted about 1 year and 11 months longer than I expected after the first few weeks. I know Twitter had many terrible aspects, but I do miss the world voice old Twitter provided for quotes that could be engaged with in an "everyone is here" kind of feeling that doesn't exist on any other platforms right now.

Can you drill into "everyone is here"? Prior to twitterfiles, Twitter felt overly corporate . I agree it's pivoted into another community. A lot of the mainstream and left leaning contributors have been downranked or moved to other platforms. But Twitter hasn't felt like raw, egalitarian conversation since 2009

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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by consumer451 »

andrewflnr wrote: post #425
mrweasel wrote: post #130

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More and more I think Musk managed to his take over of Twitter pretty successfully. X still isn't as strong a brand as Twitter where, but it's doing okay. A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there. The only issue is that Musk vastly overpaid for Twitter, but if he plans to keep it and use it for his political ambitions, that might not matter. Also remember tha…

His mistakes cost less than they could have, sure, but to call it "pretty successful" I think it would have be better than if he just... didn't do much. He didn't have to be as open and aggressive about firing people or opening up the content policy. Openly insulting advertisers, for instance, was a completely unforced error. I think doing less would have kept more value (leaving ethics/morality entirely aside), and…

> pretty successful

What are the metrics of success in this case? Making more money, a failure. Moving the Overton window to the very far-right, success.

I would argue that the goal is quite obviously the latter, and Musk was very open about this. Given that was the goal, his takeover of Twitter was extremely successful!

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by FireBeyond »

pavlov wrote: post #58
gtsop wrote: post #38

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> it's not likely actual neo-nazi's, they are too dumb to manipulate an infobot. No they are not. There exist brilliant people and monkeybrains across the whole population and thus the political spectrum. The ratios might be different, but I am pretty sure there exist some very smart neo-nazis

Curtis Yarvin’s writing is insufferable and many of his ideas are both bad and effectively Nazism, but clearly he’s very smart (and very eager to prove it).

Yarvin is an out-and-out white nationalist, though he denies it, or at least the name: "I am not a white nationalist, though I am not exactly allergic to the stuff" - whatever the hell that mealy-mouthed answer is meant to mean.

He even wrote a bloviating article to further clarify that he is not a white nationalist. You'd be forgiven, though, if you didn't read the title. It spends most of the article sympathizing with, understanding, agreeing with, and talking of how white nationalism "resonates" with him. But don't worry, he swears he's not one at the end of the article!

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by throwpoaster »

BeetleB wrote: post #416
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #355

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>A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. It happened accidentally (ie against the wishes of Twitter management) in 2016, they successfully suppressed him in 2020, and then Elon gave MAGA that platform in 2024, leading to DJT's successful election. As long as X is seen a kingmaker, someone will find it profitable…

This is far more nuanced (and disputed) than you make it out to be. > It happened accidentally (ie against the wishes of Twitter management) in 2016 I think the whole Cambridge Analytica fiasco played a bigger role, and I don't think they utilize Twitter. On top of that, frankly, TV and his behavior at rallies/debated helped him a lot more than Twitter did in 2016. I don't know a single MAGA supporter who was even on…

> How? He was banned after the election.

By suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story before the election.

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