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Post by debugnik »

breppp wrote: post #350
mandmandam wrote: post #126

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> she was not to blame. Fall guys bear some of the blame in the fall. My long-held [0] personal theory - borne out by everything Musk has done, and by who bought Twitter - is that it was bought to curb the possibility of large positive social movements along the lines of OWS or BLM. Enabling that can entail being useless at your supposed job, while doing your actual job (which deserves some amount of blame, from a nu…

My conspiracy theory was that because of Musk's involvement in OpenAI he had foreknowledge of the impeding release of ChatGPT. In that context, Twitter as a source for AI training can be far more valuable than a rage filled social network. However he still failed horribly to time the market

> Twitter as a source for AI training can be far more valuable than a rage filled social network

Isn't Twitter the go-to example of a rage filled social network?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by jjfoooo4 »

mandmandam wrote: post #126
josefresco wrote: post #43

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Both things can be true: Valuation did drop during her tenure, AND she was not to blame. Therefore the praise is weird, because she seemingly neither helped nor hurt the business.

> she was not to blame. Fall guys bear some of the blame in the fall. My long-held [0] personal theory - borne out by everything Musk has done, and by who bought Twitter - is that it was bought to curb the possibility of large positive social movements along the lines of OWS or BLM. Enabling that can entail being useless at your supposed job, while doing your actual job (which deserves some amount of blame, from a nu…

I think Elon truly believed in the subscription model, which would free him from advertiser content influence. That and being terminally addicted to the platform himself, and being an impulsive gambler. I really don't think we've gotten where we are due to any (successful) master plan

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Post by regularjack »

apwell23 wrote: post #225
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #215

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> liberal echo chamber It skews one way, but there's definitely a large diversity in opinions on Reddit that are not hard to find. It's also transitioning into an India social media site, just from sheer population numbers.

[flagged]

Your ban was deserved

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by sunaookami »

ceejayoz wrote: post #403
throw310822 wrote: post #302

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And btw, how many features have been brought live since Musk's takeover? If I'm not wrong, at least: long tweets, paid subscriptions, community notes, native video (?), grok... Anything else? Seems quite a lot after years of stagnation.

Long tweets: 2017 ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/07/twitter-officially-expands... ) Subscriptions: 2021 ( https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-launches-subscrip... ) Community Notes: 2021 ( https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-bir... ) Native video: 2012-2015 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) / https://www.videonuze.com/artic…

Chronological feed by default with a setting that actually sticks, private favorites, new media gallery, "E2E" messages.

(side note: Birdwatch was a way better name than Community Notes)

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Post by jjfoooo4 »

guywithahat wrote: post #296
rtkwe wrote: post #249

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They had managed to get a verb into relatively common speech and their revenue has collapsed since the Musk take over I'd say it's pretty thoroughly destroyed.

I find this X doomsday talk is pretty isolated to reddit/other minor social media sites. The site itself is doing fine, and maintains a strong investor/startup ecosystem, with a slight fall in usage after the election (which isn't uncommon for Twitter/X). My understanding is that a few advertisers threatened to leave and then returned after a few days/weeks. It's a private company now so I don't know what their reven…

X didn't "invest in AI", it was rolled into a buzzy AI company. Before that the holders of it's debt could not find buyers (aka buyers willing to bet against X bankruptcy)

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Post by sillyfluke »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #401
petersellers wrote: post #385

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> Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. I really don't think so, at least not in isolation. It probably contributed a small part but the right wing media machine is multi-faceted. There were a lot of podcasters (i.e. Joe Rogan), comedians and youtubers all publicly in support of a second DJT presidency and I think that had a much bigger factor overall than Twitter.

The media gets their news from Twitter and Twitter drives the questions the media asks. It's indirectly a bigger factor than you give it credit for.

To be fair, as I understand it they're saying the podcasters were most likely the ones that pushed him over the edge this time around. "Small part" meaning 10-15 percent is not too bad for twitter. And I do think rightwing podcasters and tiktok got the young male votes out more than twitter did this time around.

I also doubt hispanics and other minorities voted for Trump because they were obsessively on twitter. Not being able to make ends meet, a weekend at Bernie's president, and the over-the-top blank check given to Israel played more of a role than Elon buying twitter.

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Post by gitremote »

mrtksn wrote: post #131
CyberMacGyver wrote: post #4

One time they let her speak publicly it turned out to be a disaster. She never had any say and worst part is she was not even a good fall guy, it was clear who’s pulling the strings. The most immaterial and inconsequential hire ever. I love all the replies on Twitter thanking her but during her time the valuation dropped 80% and they were suing advertisers for not advertising. Remarkably inept.

I don't think she ever was a fall guy, Elon run a poll on should someone else be CEO of Twitter and lost the poll. It was quite entertaining, He didn't seem happy with the outcome and probably had to pay CEO level salary due to the stunt.

"The glass cliff is a hypothesized phenomenon in which women are more likely to break the "glass ceiling" (i.e. achieve leadership roles in business and government) during periods of crisis or downturn when the risk of failure is highest."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_cliff

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Post by throw310822 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #403
throw310822 wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And btw, how many features have been brought live since Musk's takeover? If I'm not wrong, at least: long tweets, paid subscriptions, community notes, native video (?), grok... Anything else? Seems quite a lot after years of stagnation.

Long tweets: 2017 ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/07/twitter-officially-expands... ) Subscriptions: 2021 ( https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-launches-subscrip... ) Community Notes: 2021 ( https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-bir... ) Native video: 2012-2015 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) / https://www.videonuze.com/artic…

Thanks for the reply, but you get a number of things wrong.

The 2017 "long tweets" are actually 280 characters. 4k characters tweets have been introduced in 2023.

The "subscription feature" is a content creator one, while I meant paid blue check.

"Community notes" had not been publicly launched before Musk did, renaming them from "Birdwatch".

The "native video" feature you mention is Vine, which had been discontinued.

Not saying that Musk innovated (doesn't take much to make blue checks subscription-based or to increase the length of tweets) but he did act decisively to introduce changes in the good old Twitter, something the previous CEOs had hesitated to do.

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Post by klank »

euleriancon wrote: post #216
mikepurvis wrote: post #98

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Not that building all that stuff is necessarily easy , but it's also not like there's a ton of product market validation or design work that's needed. Like literally the playbook is to just copy whatever the Asian superapps like WeChat/Grab/Gojek/LINE/etc are doing. Musk has always been pretty transparent that that was his ambition for X.

I feel like most people that say WeChat is a super app haven't actually used it for any period of time. WeChat achieves their "able to do everything" by embedding sub apps within the app. Switching between them is jarring, and is sometimes less smooth than just opening a different app. Saying WeChat is a super app is like saying an app store is a super app.

> Saying WeChat is a super app is like saying an app store is a super app.

I don't think they care about the experience or functionality. I think it's just about being able to exert enough of a legal or structural claim to get their fingers on a cut of the eventual transactions enabled by the various "apps" in the "super app".

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Post by throw310822 »

sunaookami wrote: post #434
ceejayoz wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long tweets: 2017 ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/07/twitter-officially-expands... ) Subscriptions: 2021 ( https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-launches-subscrip... ) Community Notes: 2021 ( https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-bir... ) Native video: 2012-2015 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) / https://www.videonuze.com/artic…

Chronological feed by default with a setting that actually sticks, private favorites, new media gallery, "E2E" messages. (side note: Birdwatch was a way better name than Community Notes)

Private likes too.
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