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Re: Zorin OS

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Post by johnisgood »

jeroenhd wrote: post #120
johnisgood wrote: post #90

Without Pro, I cannot choose macOS style interface at all? I think that looks the best.

The macOS style looks very close to out-of-the-box Gnome from what I can tell. There are free themes that will also look like macOS if going for the macOS look is your goal: https://forum.zorin.com/t/making-zorin-os-look-like-macos-bi... Comes down to installing WhiteSur, a few fonts, and an icon pack.

Your link says: "You need to have Zorin OS Pro and the macOS style enabled."

At any rate, as techie, I could make it look like macOS, but I was thinking of installing it on family members' computers without much effort.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by mitkebes »

nartho wrote: post #15
roger_ wrote: post #5

“Bundled with alternatives to over $5,000 of professional software” That sounds spammy and misleading to me. I’m assuming they’re just including open source alternatives and assuming the same value as commercial offerings.

>Zorin OS is built on the same Open Source software that powers the New York Stock Exchange and computers on the International Space Station. >Thanks to the advanced security features of Linux, Zorin OS is resistant to PC viruses and malware The whole landing page is full of those statements. It seems like they are targeting a demographics with low tech literacy, but I don't know how productive those statements are r…

My father has gotten distrustful of windows, and wanted an alternative. I sent him a link to the Zorin home page, and it convinced him to try it out on a new laptop they were buying (I installed it for them). They've been quite happy with it, and I expect they'll want to swap over their other PC as well.

So it seems to me that this homepage was very successful, at least in this case of a linux user being able to recommend it to a non-techie.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by mitkebes »

kube-system wrote: post #130
kjellsbells wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's simultaneously too much and too little. If the reader is genuinely a tech layperson, eg, someone who grew up on iPad and nothing else, then "open source" and "Linux" are just confusing filler words and a better statement would be "Zorin OS is built from the same software that powers the New York Stock Exchange and computers on the International Space Station. Thanks to its advanced security features, Zorin OS is…

I think the market they're targeting here makes no sense whatsoever. What cross section of people are both : 1. A tech layperson, and ... 2. In the market for downloading an OS? Normal people buy computers and use OS that is installed on them. It would probably make more sense to be targeting OEMs or something.

Commented this above, but I've had freinds and family ask about alternatives to windows lately because of privacy concerns or just being unhappy with it. I've been sending them the link to the ZorinOS page, and it's been popular with them. It convinced my dad to try Zorin on a new laptop they were buying, and he's been happy with it.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by mitkebes »

roger_ wrote: post #5

“Bundled with alternatives to over $5,000 of professional software” That sounds spammy and misleading to me. I’m assuming they’re just including open source alternatives and assuming the same value as commercial offerings.

I think that's mostly there to give people confidence that they'll have real, quality software available. A concern for new linux users is that they'll be missing software they need, that statement expresses that there will be a lot of software available, and that the quality is comparable to profession quality.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by kube-system »

mitkebes wrote: post #133
kube-system wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the market they're targeting here makes no sense whatsoever. What cross section of people are both : 1. A tech layperson, and ... 2. In the market for downloading an OS? Normal people buy computers and use OS that is installed on them. It would probably make more sense to be targeting OEMs or something.

Commented this above, but I've had freinds and family ask about alternatives to windows lately because of privacy concerns or just being unhappy with it. I've been sending them the link to the ZorinOS page, and it's been popular with them. It convinced my dad to try Zorin on a new laptop they were buying, and he's been happy with it.

I would think if somebody could figure out how to install an OS just being given a link to that page, they're probably savvy enough that they could figure out how to use something like Ubuntu. But really, in your case, the marketing copy on their site isn't really doing much, your family got there because of the word-of-mouth reference.

If somebody is navigating to a website for an OS, they already have some sort of clue that a new OS would be solving their problem, which indicates that they do have some level of understanding beyond what most people would. Really the average computer user today doesn't know that an OS is a separable part of their computer... most people think of computers as "Mac computers", or "Windows computers".

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by Propelloni »

IshKebab wrote: post #113
afavour wrote: post #47

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I don't think that's misleading. There are a lot of people out there who aren't aware that free software exists that provides a lot of the functionality of software that costs $999. They clearly say "alternatives to".

But gimp doesn't provide the functionality of software that costs $999. That's why it's misleading. It's probably more like Affinity Photo which is £68.

Which, incidentally, is the software they compare their offering to. The only Adobe software they mention in the comparison is Adobe Premier Pro.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by pjmlp »

graemep wrote: post #129
pjmlp wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which Linux users, from the myriad of Dritrowach rankings? And no, many normies use Windows just as out of factory, as anyone that has had to fix the cousin's computer during a holidays visit is well aware.

> And no, many normies use Windows just as out of factory Which means they do not "get a functional and unobtrusive operating system." My experience of Windows users is that if they do not know how to tweak it, they complain about it. > Which Linux users, from the myriad of Dritrowach rankings? Any of them

A functional and unobtrusive OS, is one where people focus on doing work, instead of tweaking the OS to enable a beamer.

I would like to see someone using Kali Linux for a DAW, without issues, it is any of them, after all.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by fao_ »

pjmlp wrote: post #138
graemep wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And no, many normies use Windows just as out of factory Which means they do not "get a functional and unobtrusive operating system." My experience of Windows users is that if they do not know how to tweak it, they complain about it. > Which Linux users, from the myriad of Dritrowach rankings? Any of them

A functional and unobtrusive OS, is one where people focus on doing work, instead of tweaking the OS to enable a beamer. I would like to see someone using Kali Linux for a DAW, without issues, it is any of them, after all.

> I would like to see someone using Kali Linux for a DAW, without issues, it is any of them, after all.

Why would you use Kali Linux for a DAW? It's designed for penetration testing.

Most linux distributions ship pipewire which handles everything that Jack, ALSA, and Pulseaudio does, including many of the advanced low latency features.

Moreover, it's no longer required to recompile Linux to get the realtime features, that ships by default these days.

Hell, Pop_OS! has better support for my headphones than Windows ever had. Windows decided that 1% should be "excruciatingly loud and unlistenable", whereas in Linux it shows me the interfaces available and lets me select a different audio routing.

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