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Nvidia won, we all lost

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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Here's something I don't understand: Why is it that when I go look at DigitalOcean's GPU Droplet options, they don't offer any Blackwell chips? [1] I thought Blackwell was supposed to be the game changing hyperchip that carried AI into the next generation, but the best many providers still offer are Hopper H100s? Where are all the Blackwell chips? Its been oodles of months.

Apparently AWS has them available in the P6 instance type, but the only configuration they offer has 2TB of memory and costs... $113/hr [2]? Like, what is going on at Nvidia?

Where the heck is Project Digits? Like, I'm developing this shadow opinion that Nvidia actually hasn't built anything new in three years, but they fill the void by talking about hypothetical newtech that no one can actually buy + things their customers have built with the actually good stuff they built three years ago. Like, consumers can never buy Blackwell because "oh Enterprises have bought them all up" then when Microsoft tries to buy any they say "Amazon bought them all up" and vice-versa. Something really fishy is going on over there. Time to short.

[1] https://www.digitalocean.com/products/gpu-droplets

[2] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#243

I wonder if the 12VHPWR connector is intentionally defective to prevent large-scale use of those consumer cards in server/datacenter contexts? The failure rate is just barely acceptable in a consumer use-case with a single card, but with multiple cards the probability of failure (which takes down the whole machine, as there's no way to hot-swap the card) makes it unusable. I can't otherwise see why they'd persevere o…

They use the 12VHPWR on some datacenter cards too.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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I am a volunteer firefighter and hold a degree in electrical engineering. The shenanigans with their shunt resistors, and ensuing melting cables, is in my view criminal. Any engineer worth their salt would recognize pushing 600W through a bunch of small cables with no contingency if some of them have failed is just asking for trouble. These assholes are going to set someone's house on fire. I hope they get hit with a…

Apparently somebody did sue a couple years back. Anyone know what happened with the [plaintiff] vs. nVidia lawsuit? EDIT: Plantiff dismissed it. Guessing they settled. Here are the court documents (alternately, shakna's links below include unredacted copies): https://www.classaction.org/media/plaintiff-v-nvidia-corpora... https://www.classaction.org/media/plaintiff-v-nvidia-corpora... A GamersNexus article investigat…

GamersNexus ftw as always

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#245

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But the thing is that Steam didn't cause the death of physical media. I absolutely do remember PC gaming before Steam, and between the era when it was awesome (StarCraft, Age of Empires, Unreal Tournament, Tribes, etc.) and the modern Steam-powered renaissance, there was an absolutely dismal era of disappointment and decline. Store shelves were getting filled with trash like "40 games on one CD!" and each new console…

I am not saying that about Steam. In fact Steam pretty much saved triple A PC gaming. Your timeline is quite accurate! >> Microsoft's strategy is going to come to the same result as Embracer Group. I hope you are right. If I were trying to make a larger point, I guess it would be that big tech companies (Apple, MSFT, Amazon) don't want content creators to be too important in the ecosystem and tend to support initiati…

> big tech companies (Apple, MSFT, Amazon) don't want content creators to be too important in the ecosystem

100%. The platforms' ability to monetize in their factor is directly proportional to their relative power vs the most powerful creatives.

Thus, in order to keep more money, they make strategic moves that disempower creatives.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Also, like, I kind of want to play with these things, but also I'm not sure I want a computer that uses 500W+ in my house, let alone just a GPU. I might actually be happy to buy one of these things, at the inflated price, and run it at half voltage or something... but I can't tell if that is going to fix these concerns or they're just bad cards.

It's not the voltage, it's the current you'd want to halve. The wire gauge required to carry power is dependent on the current load. It's why when i first saw these new connectors and the loads they were being tasked with it was a wtf moment for me. Better to just avoid them in the first place though.

It's crazy, you don't even need to know about electricity after you see a thermal camera on them operating at full load. I'm surprised they can be sold to the general public, the reports of cables melting plus the high temps should be enough to force a recall.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Yeah, computer graphics has always been "software trickery" all the way down. There are valid points to be made about DLSS being marketed in misleading ways, but I don't think it being "software trickery" is a problem at all.

Exactly. Running games at a lower resolution isn't new. I remember changing the size of the viewport in the original DOOM 1993 to get it to run faster. Making a lower resolution look better without having to run at a higher resolution is the exact same problem anti-aliasing has been tackling forever. DLSS is just another form of AA that is now so advanced, you can go from an even lower resolution and still look good.…

But we're not talking about resolution here. We're talking about interpolation of entire frames, multiple frames.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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I don’t want to jump on nvidia but I found it super weird when they clearly remote controlled a Disney bot onto the stage and claimed it was all using real time AI which was clearly impossible due to no latency and weirdly the bot verifying correct stage position in relation to the presenter. It was obviously the Disney bot just being controlled by someone off stage. I found it super alarming because why would they f…

> I don’t want to jump on nvidia but I found it super weird when they clearly remote controlled a Disney bot onto the stage and claimed it was all using real time AI which was clearly impossible due to no latency and weirdly the bot verifying correct stage position in relation to the presenter. It was obviously the Disney bot just being controlled by someone off stage. I don't know what you're referring to, but I'd j…

Tefal literally sells a rice cooker that boasts "AI Smart Cooking Technology" while not even containing a microcontroller and just being controlled by the time-honored technology of "a magnet that gets hot". They also have lawyers.

AI doesn't mean anything. You can claim anything uses "AI" and just define what that means yourself. They could have some basic anti-collision technology and claim it's "AI".

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Exactly. Running games at a lower resolution isn't new. I remember changing the size of the viewport in the original DOOM 1993 to get it to run faster. Making a lower resolution look better without having to run at a higher resolution is the exact same problem anti-aliasing has been tackling forever. DLSS is just another form of AA that is now so advanced, you can go from an even lower resolution and still look good.…

But we're not talking about resolution here. We're talking about interpolation of entire frames, multiple frames.

I don't think we are? Article talks about DLSS on RTX 20 series cards, which do not support DLSS frame-gen:

> What always rubbed me the wrong way about how DLSS was marketed is that it wasn’t only for the less powerful GPUs in NVIDIA’s line-up. No, it was marketed for the top of the line $1,000+ RTX 20 series flagship models to achieve the graphical fidelity with all the bells and whistles.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#250

Remember when nvidia got caught dropping 2 bits of color information to beat ati in benchmarks? I still can't believe anyone has trusted them since! That is an insane thing to do considering the purpose of the product. For as long as they have competition, I will support those companies instead. If they all fail, I guess I will start one. My spite for them knows no limits

People need to start asking more questions about why the RTX 50 series (Blackwell) has almost no performance uplift over the RTX 40 series (Ada/Hopper), and also conveniently its impossible to find B200s.
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