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AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As parent already hinted at, writing down stuff makes you vulnerable to criticism. Just stay vague, and you have a lot of wiggle room left...

An exec writing down minutes can also come back to bite them in the ass if there's a lawsuit or criminal investigation. Email can have retention policies. That's harder to enforce with paper, especially when it's someone's personal notes.

Ya, it quite simply boils down to Plausible deniability.

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How can anyone be sure this story is at all true? Is it taken from an anecdotal story told to a WaPo reporter by a large investor in AI seeking to hype up the ability of AI to take good notes in a meeting, to create a marketing buzz around AI and draw in more investors? The naive credence given to this story in the comment section is probably not justified.

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I trust you thats the case for your environment. Where I work, useless meetings started to explode March 2020, and never went away.

Were you born in 1997? If so, it’s possible you just weren’t senior enough to see the 80% meeting workday prior to COVID.

Weird guess. No, you're off by 18 years. However, I am not working in a software shop.

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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post #81

In my experience, at least, it's because a lot of "meetings" aren't actually meetings, they're presentations that are actually better consumed async after the fact, but historical precedent demands that everyone be invited to attend the live taping and emote and cheer politely.

As well as those standups which are just micro-presentations where each person talks in turn about their respective card but there's no discussion. The teams that moved to async standups where they just post status updates in Slack and amigo only when needed seem happier.

Text-only stand-ups also have a tendency to devolve into just posting text into the void than nobody reads, so you may as well move to the even simpler "I need to discuss" flags which reduces communication even more. But then some people don't like that.

I am afraid there's no perfect solution, and it just boils down to people's preferences and the skills of people involved. And the chemistry between them.

I've been in teams which flip flopped over time between "communication worsened" and "wasting everyone's time". Being remote for 15+ years I enjoy the "convivial" side of stand-ups but I hate when they devolve into rote status reports.

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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> He counted six people on the call including himself, Sellers recounted in an interview. The 10 others attending were note-taking apps powered by artificial intelligence that had joined to record, transcribe and summarize the meeting. Why do you even have a call with 16 people in it?

The big question is why they need 10 apps to take notes of the same meeting? Wouldn't be better to have just one and send the summary at the end?

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were you born in 1997? If so, it’s possible you just weren’t senior enough to see the 80% meeting workday prior to COVID.

Weird guess. No, you're off by 18 years. However, I am not working in a software shop.

> Weird guess.

The guess probably stems from the number in your user name: 97.

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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The problem is these meetings are so low information density even an AI summary is not worth my time. And it’s not some elitist mindset. It’s like the entire reason there are these regular meetings is to make some mid level person feel better. They like giving directions vocally because that authority is harder to question than if they wrote up a memo and all the receivers can poke holes in it. I’m convinced most mee…

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Nobody is complaining about 3 minute meetings... Try 30+

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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I hope this finally ends meetings. Pretty much nothing ever needs to be a meeting. Everything can be decided async. Extroverts are the only ones demanding a meeting to hear themselves talk. I have yet to experience a single compelling remote meeting.

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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post #65

The problem is these meetings are so low information density even an AI summary is not worth my time. And it’s not some elitist mindset. It’s like the entire reason there are these regular meetings is to make some mid level person feel better. They like giving directions vocally because that authority is harder to question than if they wrote up a memo and all the receivers can poke holes in it. I’m convinced most mee…

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Personally I don't mind spending several hours solving a problem over "async communication" if that means I'm free to work on other stuff while the other party is formulating a response. Then I also get the benefit of having something in their writing to refer back to.

The kind of person who takes hours to explain something in written form are unlikely to explain it in 3 minutes in person. More likely, they set up a meeting where they waffle on about an issue, expecting the receiving end to distill some valuable information from their ramblings, and then inevitably end up complaining when the solution doesn't match their expectations (which of course were never formalized anywhere).

Re: AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings

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It’s occurred to me that scrum masters are not long for this world at all. It would only take one engineer to suck up their entire organization’s meetings and then train an AI scrum master on them. Surprised we haven’t seen a Y-combinator company do it yet.
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