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This is the language app I've always wanted to exist. Will try it out - really hoping it can create custom lessons for specific scenarios that I need to study for.
I'm a second-gen Korean-American; my korean is weak but conversational. I am intrigued by the reasoning model that analyzes my speech and points out various mistakes I'm making. It's a good first attempt at separating the 2 tracks of actual conversation vs mistake-correcting. I think showing the raw reasoning text is not quite the right UI; maybe highlighting the specific text in red and showing a suggested correctio…
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I had a similar feeling with Swedish just now. It isn't really much different than conversing with ChatGPT in advanced voice mode - it's up to me to drive the conversation and it all feels quite arbitrary (and I find myself instinctively falling back on topics I know how to talk about, which quite defeats the purpose). I was hoping for a more structured learning plan that strategically expands my comfort zone and ski…
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah we need to improve the beginner experience, it's more tailored towards intermediate/advanced students at the moment.
So this is the AI gold rush and of course this isn't the first AI language product I've seen of course. No hate to you or your product but I have a question. If AI succeeds, will we even need language learning? Language learning is notoriously difficult and time-consuming. We're rapidly approaching a future like Star Trek of universal translators. If so, what is the realistic future for AI language learning products?
Plus, you can't do auto translation for languages like Japanese where the grammar is reversed. Auto translation has fundamental limitations.
Question: ChatGPT voice mode seems to have too much tolerance for mispronouncing. Sometimes, it understands you even you mispronounce something in a phrase, and it's not aware enough to correct you - it even says your pronunciation is correct if asked. It's good at grammar, though. It makes me think the audio goes through a kind of voice-to-text model before the answer, so nuance is lost; or the model wasn't trained…
The models are improving though, and they are at a very good place for English at the moment. I expect by next year we will switch over to full voice to voice models.
I built a basic version of this for myself with a prompt in chat gpt in an afternoon. It's great that you've built this yourself, but where's the magic? If it's your prompt it can probably be extracted in a few minutes by those who know how to do so.
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Yeah, this is the biggest gripe we hear about much of the existing language learning landscape. That they're effectively gaming apps masked as language learning apps.
You should still gamify it. Gamification is orthogonal to whether the tool actually works and positively correlated with whether the user actually uses it.
However, gamification can only do so much and I'm afraid language learning is a lot like learning to code: many people want to want it but few actually want it. In that case, presenting as a "want it" when you are a "want to want it" is social proof and largely unrelated to whether you are actually learning (as long as the pretense is kept up) — hence the success of Duolingo despite the relatively poor real-world outcomes. In Duolingo's case the streaks are even explicitly considered to be social proof.
Very impressive, but still has the same problem that seemingly all voice modes that I have tried have which is that the Cantonese voice has a Mandarin accent, and sometimes just straight up uses Mandarin pronunciations.
I built a basic version of this for myself with a prompt in chat gpt in an afternoon. It's great that you've built this yourself, but where's the magic? If it's your prompt it can probably be extracted in a few minutes by those who know how to do so.
Why not finish, publish it to the store and get income if it was that straightforward? There's a long way to go between a toy application to demonstrate a product, and something on shelves actually selling. In other words, you can most often quickly tackle the concept or trivial parts of an app, but it's much harder to get a real product out, even if the implementation looks straightforward on surface.
Why on earth are you going to build out a whole product: doing marketing, security, incorporation, customer support, etc… just so you can finally arrive at the end result of… teaching yourself a language?
The toy app is 100% of the value. You don’t need all that other shit, you just need a really good prompt. It’s exactly how you don’t need to search websites anymore, just ask AI for the answer and get it immediately. You don’t need a full app, just ask AI exactly what you want.
Question: ChatGPT voice mode seems to have too much tolerance for mispronouncing. Sometimes, it understands you even you mispronounce something in a phrase, and it's not aware enough to correct you - it even says your pronunciation is correct if asked. It's good at grammar, though. It makes me think the audio goes through a kind of voice-to-text model before the answer, so nuance is lost; or the model wasn't trained…
Yes we do have this issue, but it's improved a bit over chatgpt due to using multiple transcribers. The models are improving though, and they are at a very good place for English at the moment. I expect by next year we will switch over to full voice to voice models.