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Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by shakna »

antonvs wrote: post #85
shakna wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of authors, myself included, want a "distraction free" editor. Its a whole over-populated market segment. Prose thrives in the terminal. Ice and Fire was written in WordStar, as just one popular example.

Is that why the series ground to a halt

> “I’m 12 years late on this damn novel, and I’m struggling with it,” he said. “I have like 1,100 pages written, but I still have hundreds more pages to go. It’s a big mother of a book for whatever reason. Maybe I should’ve started writing smaller books when I began this, but it’s tough.”

He's averaging a hundred pages a year. Maybe not the fastest, but certainly not the slowest writer. With the size of his books... Cut the guy some slack.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by dang »

LionEgo wrote: post #297
lpcvoid wrote: post #193

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Sorry for the snarky comment, but then those devs are simply bad. Windows is legacy, the future is in open source.

> Sorry for the snarky comment, but then those devs are simply bad Yes. That is the majority of developers. I had to explain to a dev today (nice enough guy) that he has to actually run the tests. > Windows is legacy, the future is in open source. You can claim the future is opensource but the industry has moved towards SAAS, PAAS, IAAS which is even more lock in than using a proprietary OS such as Windows. So while…

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Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by naikrovek »

trelane wrote: post #202
naikrovek wrote: post #180

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> I strongly suspect in time Microsoft will move to Linux, at least with things like Windows Server and embedded Windows. You may not understand how important Microsoft considers backwards compatibility. Switching to a Linux kernel would eliminate all of that, and that is simply not an option for Microsoft. The Linux kernel is missing a lot of esoteric things that the NT kernel has and that people use a lot, as well.…

> I do hope one day that Microsoft put a proper GUI on Linux though, no X, no Wayland, but something smarter and better than those. https://xkcd.com/927/ Now that I say that, though, that does sound like a Microsoft kind of move. They do love other platforms "to death."

I hate that XKCD so much.

People use it as if to say that there should never be anything new.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by jandrese »

contextfree wrote: post #289
jandrese wrote: post #249

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I assume it is basically an Electron app now. Anything will be bloated when it's a full web browser running some webapp.

No, it doesn't use Electron or webviews afaik. The UI is mostly WinUI2/UWP/XAML Islands based however

If that's the case then why is it so heavy? In comparison The Gimp consumes about 80MB of memory and burns a trivial amount of when not being actively used.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by pjmlp »

rollcat wrote: post #222
CineSnaccs wrote: post #140

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I don't know how many people don't know this, but now you actually can't release app on Windows without it showing your warning while installing unless you sign it with EV certificates, which cost upwards of 500$ for a year. As you may have guessed, this simply pushes out smaller devs. This used to NOT be like this. It should NOT be like this.

Unfortunately Apple normalised it, first with the iPhone. There are upsides (theoretically - less trash apps), but the review/curation process doesn't scale, and yep - the small devs are effectively told to bug off. 10 years ago I wanted to build a Love2D game, and release it for the three major OS's. The .love files are effectively ZIP archives, kinda like cartridges, but you need the correct Love2D version (they br…

No they didn't, signing was already common across Symbian, J2ME, Windows CE/Pocket PC, Newton, PalmOS, Blackberry, BREW.

And game consoles naturally.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by pxc »

seabrookmx wrote: post #291
JdeBP wrote: post #281

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There's an underlying assumption about "target audience for this editor" that you both share, that others, I suspect quite a few others, do not. For starters, there's your assumption that there is "syntax" to be highlighted. Not every text file is something written in a computer programming language.

You're right, I do assume most (90+%? of) people that are looking for a terminal editor are likely developers. In fact I'd put money on it, but sadly do not have any evidence to back it up. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd be intrigued!

You might not be wrong about percentages, but there are famously some Emacs users who for into it for Org mode or academic writing, including even some who learned to program long to better customize their Emacs setup and eventually became contributors.

But these are amateur geeks or geeks in the making who probably don't mind having the capability of syntax highlighting built in, even if for some purposes they want it turned off.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by pmarreck »

Fokamul wrote: post #148

Nano is completely ok for this. Nope, let's burn some cash and reinvent the wheel. Instead of donating to Nano devs, or hire some of them or something. Stupid corp at their finest.

What it reminds me most of actually is Micro.

Which is pretty neat.

https://micro-editor.github.io/

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by pmarreck »

xyst wrote: post #49

It will take more than nostalgia and rust to tear me away from my neovim setup that has been built up/improved on over the years. Lsp, dap, autocompletion, aliases and bindings for each programming languages. Lazily loaded of course so it’s still snappy. Manage configuration, and external dependencies such as lsps with nix. Then have separate nix shells for each project to load tooling and other dependencies in an is…

Sell me on Neovim.

It blipped on my radar recently when I did a sidequest into LuaJIT.

Also, just made a PR to add Nix flake support to Edit:

https://github.com/microsoft/edit/pull/534

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