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Re: Microsoft Edit

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Last time I checked, micro should have been called macro based on the binary file size.

Seriously? We're going to complain about a couple megs in a text editor in the year 2025?

Yes, couldn’t use on my router because of its size. No reason for a TUI to be so big. Advanced features outside of syntax highlighting not useful. Should have a light version.

I installed nano with CUA keybindings instead.

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Unfortunately, the new Edit isn't safe from such decisions. While Satya might have made the change Microsoft Now we have a schizophrenia of Web and Desktop frameworks, and themselves hardly use them, what used to be a comfortable VS wizard, or plugin, now is e.g. a CLI tool that dumps an Excel file, showing that newer blood has hardly any Windows development culture, or their upper management.

I don't know how many people don't know this, but now you actually can't release app on Windows without it showing your warning while installing unless you sign it with EV certificates, which cost upwards of 500$ for a year. As you may have guessed, this simply pushes out smaller devs. This used to NOT be like this. It should NOT be like this.

Unfortunately Apple normalised it, first with the iPhone. There are upsides (theoretically - less trash apps), but the review/curation process doesn't scale, and yep - the small devs are effectively told to bug off.

10 years ago I wanted to build a Love2D game, and release it for the three major OS's. The .love files are effectively ZIP archives, kinda like cartridges, but you need the correct Love2D version (they broke API compat every year or so). Windows and Mac used to be: "cat love.exe game.zip > game.exe".

Linux gave me the most crap, because making a portable, semi-static build was a nightmare; you couldn't rely on distros because each one shipped a different version of love.

Now Linux is actually becoming more viable, not because it's making that much progress, but because the two mainstream platforms are taking steps back.

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Who cares? It’s fun. Programming can be fun.

I'm not saying that doing this can't be fun, or even good to learn off of, but when it's touted as a feature or a spec, I do have to ask if it's a legitimate point. If you build the world's widest bike, that's cool, and I'm happy you had fun doing it, but it's probably not the most useful optimization goal for a bike.

I don't think a sentence in a big report page is counted as touting.

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There is also dte[1]. It hits exactly the same notch and offers an extremely lean editor with Unicode support, CUA key bindings and much more. It has replaced nano as my terminal editor. [1]: https://craigbarnes.gitlab.io/dte/

Why are you opposed to learning vi which is already installed everywhere?

Learning CUA once is more realistic/convenient for most people.

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Meanwhile, they forced AI Copilot bloat into Notepad, whose singular use-case was supposed to be that it does one thing well without unnecessary features.

I took a screenshot and pasted it into the new Win11 Paint. Even minimized, Paint was constantly using 5% CPU and sitting at ~250MB of RAM. I guess I can begrudgingly get over the RAM, but squandering the CPU like that is ridiculous.

What happened to pride or quality control or anything?

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I was hoping this would work over ssh in a macOS Terminal.app, but last I tried it was inserting all kinds of weird characters into the edited text files.

Windows ships an official OpenSSH server these days, but so far there haven't been any good official text editors that work over OpenSSH, as far as I know.

I've had to resort to "copy con output.txt" the few times I needed to put things into a text file over windows-opensshd...

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You think Microsoft maintains an entire secret distro just for Windows people to feel 'at home'.

> You think Microsoft maintains an entire secret distro just for Windows people to feel 'at home'. Sorry I dont understand the point you are making. I did not suggest they had a "secret distro" I am suggesting they could have claimed a share of dominance in the Linux Distro as the default WSL distro.

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I was hoping this would work over ssh in a macOS Terminal.app, but last I tried it was inserting all kinds of weird characters into the edited text files. Windows ships an official OpenSSH server these days, but so far there haven't been any good official text editors that work over OpenSSH, as far as I know. I've had to resort to "copy con output.txt" the few times I needed to put things into a text file over window…

Maybe using ucs2 encoding, instead of utf8?

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Telling people to use nano would of course have been next to impossible. Much easier to rewrite a DOS-era editor in Rust, naturally.

micro would have been an even better choice, the UX is impressively close to something like Sublime Text for a TUI, and very comfortable for those not used to modal editors.

It doesn’t have a menu for windows devs, and is supposed to be small and light. Two strikes against.

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Nano is completely ok for this. Nope, let's burn some cash and reinvent the wheel. Instead of donating to Nano devs, or hire some of them or something. Stupid corp at their finest.

Nano is a bare-bones editor with its own wacky key-bindings. What is the point? If I want to learn new key-bindings I'll learn a full-featured editor. msedit's key-bindings are based on IBM CUA. It's immediately familiar to a great many people.

Nano can be configured with CUA keybindings, I do it.

But I’m glad someone wrote one of these in rust.

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