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Re: Gemini CLI

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> To use Gemini CLI free-of-charge, simply login with a personal Google account to get a free Gemini Code Assist license. That free license gets you access to Gemini 2.5 Pro and its massive 1 million token context window. To ensure you rarely, if ever, hit a limit during this preview, we offer the industry’s largest allowance: 60 model requests per minute and 1,000 requests per day at no charge. If it sounds too good…

I just tried it - it does not last long.

Re: Gemini CLI

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I'm sure that there are power users who are using much more than $20 worth of compute, but there will also be many users who pay but barely use the service.

since its bundled with Google One storage, which most people (into Google's ecosystem) buy anyway, the price is actually less than 20

I would've thought "most" people would be firmly on the free tier, are there any stats to check how common it is? Personally I've had Gmail for 20 years, Android phones for 13 years, Home/chromecast devices but never thought about paying for Google One or any other services.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Thanks for trying to clarify. However, as others pointed out, that link take you to here: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... Which, at the bottom says: "If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals." and links to https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/set-up.…

It applies to Gemini CLI too. We've tried to clear up our docs, apologies for the confusion. https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/main/docs/t...

Thanks, however I'm not sure I've got it.

Are you saying the Gemini Apps Activity switch controls? Or, that if I download VS Code or Intelli J and make the change, it applies to the CLI? https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/set-up... says "These privacy settings are stored at the IDE level."

Re: Gemini CLI

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Actually, that's the reason a lot of startups and solo developers prefer non-Google solutions, even though the quality of Gemini 2.5 Pro is insanely high. The Google Cloud Dashboard is a mess, and they haven't fixed it in years. They have Vertex that is supposed to host some of their models, but I don't understand what's the difference between that and their own cloud. And then you have two different APIs depending o…

It took me a while but I think the difference between Vertex and Gemini APIs is that Vertex is meant for existing GCP users and Gemini API for everyone else. If you are already using GCP then Vertex API works like everything else there. If you are not, then Gemini API is much easier. But they really should spell it out, currently it's really confusing. Also they should make it clearer which SDKs, documents, pricing,…

> I think the difference between Vertex and Gemini APIs is that Vertex is meant for existing GCP users and Gemini API for everyone else

Nahh, not really - Vertex has a HUGE feature surface, and can run a ton of models and frameworks. Gemini happens to be one of them, but you could also run non-google LLMs, non LLM stuff, run notebooks against your dataset, manage data flow and storage, and and and…

Gemini is “just” an LLM.

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Hey all, This is a really great discussion, and you've raised some important points. We realize the privacy policies for the Gemini CLI were confusing depending on how you log in, and we appreciate you calling that out. To clear everything up, we've put together a single doc that breaks down the Terms of Service and data policies for each account type, including an FAQ that covers the questions from this thread. Here…

Thanks, one more clarification please. The heading of point #3 seems to mention Google Workspace: "3. Login with Google (for Workspace or Licensed Code Assist users)". But the text content only talks about Code Assist: "For users of Standard or Enterprise edition of Gemini Code Assist" ... Could you clarify whether point #3 applies with login via Google Workspace Business accounts?

Yes it does.

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Same as a shopping centre, clothing retailer, or any other non-bazaar marketplace with its own brand and transaction processing. Apple is selling you a huge lucrative market. Customers buy Apple’s curated marketplace. Apple takes a cut for being in the middle and enabling all of this. Believe me, I would never pay for most of the apps that I did pay for via Apple if it wasn’t via their marketplace and their consumer…

> Apple takes a cut for being in the middle and enabling all of this. Enabling this like Ticketmaster enables selling tickets. In ticketmaster's case I believe they give kickbacks and lucrative exclusive contracts with large venues, to squeeze smaller ones, maybe making whole tours use it but only kicking back to the biggest or select venues on the tour I think. Apple sometimes does special deals and special rules wi…

Amazon or Wallmart are much better analogies.

Ticketmaster is in no way comparable, because they gouge customers and provide no protections.

Someone in the music industry explained that both bands and venues like Ticketmaster because then Ticketmaster is the "bad guy" and the band can just shrug their shoulders and pretend to be the victim while profiting enormously from Ticketmaster's evil practices.

Re: Gemini CLI

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If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

Hey all, This is a really great discussion, and you've raised some important points. We realize the privacy policies for the Gemini CLI were confusing depending on how you log in, and we appreciate you calling that out. To clear everything up, we've put together a single doc that breaks down the Terms of Service and data policies for each account type, including an FAQ that covers the questions from this thread. Here…

I think you did a good job CYA on this, but what people were really looking for was a way to opt-out of Google collecting code, similar to the opt-out process for the IDE is available.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Oh hey, afaik all of this LLM traffic goes through my service! Set up not too long ago, and afaik pretty load-bearing for this. Feels great, just don’t ask me any product-level questions. I’m not part of the Gemini CLI team, so I’ll try to keep my mouth shut. Not going to lie, I’m pretty anxious this will fall over as traffic keeps climbing up and up.

do you mean the genai endpoints?

I chanced up some endpoint that mentioned "makersuite" that seems to be what's behind genai.

It's interesting to see how one team / product gets rebranded to another in Google.

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