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Re: Gemini CLI

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Hi - I work on this. Uptake is a steep curve right now, spare a thought for the TPUs today. Appreciate all the takes so far, the team is reading this thread for feedback. Feel free to pile on with bugs or feature requests we'll all be reading.

i have a Google AI Pro subscription - what kind of credits/usage/allowance do i get towards gemini cli ?

Re: Gemini CLI

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post #254

Whether any CLI interactions are used to train the model or no ?

Ha. It would be naive to think that a CLI tool from an adtech giant won't exploit as much data as it can collect.

You raise an interesting topic. Right now, when we think about privacy in the AI space, most of the discussion hinges on using our data for training purposes or not. That being said, I figure it won’t be long before AI companies use the data they collect to personalize ads as well.

Re: Gemini CLI

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I know they raised the price on our Google Workspace Standard subscriptions but don't really know what we got for that aside from Gemini integration into Google Drive etc. Does this mean I can use Gemini CLI using my Workspace entitlement? Do I get Code Assist or anything like that? (But Code Assist seems to be free on a personal G account...?) Google is fumbling with the marketing/communication - when I look at thei…

> Does this mean I can use Gemini CLI using my Workspace entitlement? No, you cannot use neither Gemini CLI nor Code Assist via Workspace — at least not at the moment. However, if you upgrade your Workspace plan, you can use Gemini Advanced via the Web or app interfaces.

I'm so confused.

Workspace (standard?) customer for over a decade.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Whoa. Who at Google thought providing this as an example of how to test your API key was a good idea? https://imgur.com/ZIZkLU7 This is shown at the top of the screen in https://aistudio.google.com/apikey as the suggested quick start for testing your API key out. Not a great look. I let our GCloud TAM know. But still.

What's wrong here?

Don't put your API keys as parameters in your URL. Great way to have them land in server logs, your shell history, etc. You're trusting no one with decryption capabilities is doing logging and inspection correctly, which you shouldn't.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Isn't that a bit like saying that gasoline should be sold as a fixed price subscription rather than a usage based scheme where long distance truckers pay more than someone driving A ChatBot is more like a fixed-price buffet where usage is ultimately human limited (even if the modest eaters are still subsidizing the hogs). An agentic system is going to consume resources in much more variable manner, depending on how i…

Claude desktop editing files and running commands via the desktop commander MCP is pretty much equivalent functionality wise to Claude Code. I can set both of them to go, make tea, and come back to see that they're still cranking after modifying several files and running several commands. It's just a UI difference.

These companies are all for-profit, regardless of what altruistic intent they are trying to spin. Free tier usage and fixed price buffets are obviously not where the profit is, so it's hard to blame them for usage-based pricing for their premium products targeting mass adoption.

Re: Gemini CLI

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post #261

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That is just Gemma model. Most people seek capabilities equivalent for Gemini 2.5 Pro if they want to do any kind of coding.

Gemma 27b can write working code in dozens of programming languages. It can even translate between languages. It's obviously not as good as Gemini, which is the best LLM in the world, but Gemma is built from the same technology that powers Gemini and Gemma is impressively good for something that's only running locally on your CPU or GPU. It's a great choice for airgapped environments. Especially if you use old OSes l…

The technology that powers Gemini created duds until Gemini 2.5 Pro; 2.5 Pro is the prize.

Re: Gemini CLI

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post #264
post #261

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That is just Gemma model. Most people seek capabilities equivalent for Gemini 2.5 Pro if they want to do any kind of coding.

Gemma 27b can write working code in dozens of programming languages. It can even translate between languages. It's obviously not as good as Gemini, which is the best LLM in the world, but Gemma is built from the same technology that powers Gemini and Gemma is impressively good for something that's only running locally on your CPU or GPU. It's a great choice for airgapped environments. Especially if you use old OSes l…

It may be sufficient for generating serialized data and for some level of autocomplete but not for any serious agentic coding where you won't end up wasting time. Maybe some junior level programmers may find it still fascinating but senior level programmers end up fighting with bad design choices, poor algorithms and other verbose garbage most of the time. This happens even with the best models.

Re: Gemini CLI

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This is just for free use (individuals), for standard and enterprise they don't use the data. Which pretty much means if you are using it for free, they are using your data. I don't see what is alarming about this, everyone else has either the same policy or no free usage. Hell the surprising this is that they still let free users opt-out...

> everyone else has either the same policy or no free usage That’s not true. ChatGPT, even in the free tier, allows users to opt out of data sharing.

I believe they are talking about the OpenAI API, not ChatGPT.

Re: Gemini CLI

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post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

There is some information on this buried in configuration.md under "Usage Statistics". They claim: *What we DON'T collect:* - *Personally Identifiable Information (PII):* We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys. - *Prompt and Response Content:* We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model. - *File Content:* We do not log the content…

This is useful, and directly contradicts the terms and conditions for Gemini CLI (edit: if you use the personal account, then its governed under the Code Assist T&C). I wonder which one is true?

Re: Gemini CLI

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> Does this mean I can use Gemini CLI using my Workspace entitlement? No, you cannot use neither Gemini CLI nor Code Assist via Workspace — at least not at the moment. However, if you upgrade your Workspace plan, you can use Gemini Advanced via the Web or app interfaces.

I'm so confused. Workspace (standard?) customer for over a decade.

Workspace users with the Business Standard plan have access to Gemini Advanced, which is Google’s AI offering via the Web interface and mobile apps. This does not include API usage, AI Studio, Gemini CLI, etc. — all of which are of course available, but must be paid separately or used in the free tier.

In the case of Gemini CLI, it seems Google does not even support Workspace accounts in the free tier. If you want to use Gemini CLI as a Workspace customer, you must pay separately for it via API billing (pay-as-you-go). Otherwise, the alternative is to login with a personal (non-Workspace) account and use the free tier.

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