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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by mil22 »

ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

There is some information on this buried in configuration.md under "Usage Statistics". They claim:

*What we DON'T collect:*

- *Personally Identifiable Information (PII):* We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys.

- *Prompt and Response Content:* We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model.

- *File Content:* We do not log the content of any files that are read or written by the CLI.

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/0915bf7d677...

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by [deleted] »

ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #85
iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

Anthropic is the same. Unless it has changed within the last few months, you can subscribe to Claude but if you want to use Claude Code it'll come out of your "API usage" bucket which is billed separately than the subscription. Some jerk has learned that we prefer CLI things and has come to the conclusion that we should therefore pay extra for them. Workaround is to use their GUI with some MCPs but I dislike it becau…

Isn't that a bit like saying that gasoline should be sold as a fixed price subscription rather than a usage based scheme where long distance truckers pay more than someone driving A ChatBot is more like a fixed-price buffet where usage is ultimately human limited (even if the modest eaters are still subsidizing the hogs). An agentic system is going to consume resources in much more variable manner, depending on how it is being used.

> Some jerk has learned that we prefer CLI things and has come to the conclusion that we should therefore pay extra for them

Obviously these companies want you to increase the amount of their product you consume, but it seems odd to call that a jerk move! FWIW, Anthropic's stated motivation for Claude Code (which Gemini is now copying) was be agnostic to your choice of development tools since CLI access is pretty much ubiquitous, even inside IDEs. Whether it's the CLI-based design, the underlying model, or the specifics of what Claude Code is capable of, they seem to have got something right, and apparently usage internal to Anthropic skyrocketed just based on word of mouth.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by sachinag »

behnamoh wrote: post #239
sachinag wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks Chris! "The Google Cloud Dashboard is a mess, and they haven't fixed it in years." Tell me what you want, and I'll do my best to make it happen. In the interim, I would also suggest checking out Cloud Hub - https://console.cloud.google.com/cloud-hub/ - this is us really rethinking the level of abstraction to be higher than the base infrastructure. You can read more about the philosophy and approach here: https…

One more suggestion: Please remove the need to make a project before we can use Gemini API. That seriously impedes our motivation in using Gemini for one-off scripts and proof-of-concept products where creating a project is overkill. Ideally what I want is this: I google "gemini api" and that leads me to a page where I can login using my Google account and see the API settings. I create one and start using it right a…

Totally fair. Yes, Google AI Studio [ https://aistudio.google.com ] lets you do this but Google Cloud doesn't at this time. That's super duper irritating, I know.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by thimabi »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #271
ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

This is just for free use (individuals), for standard and enterprise they don't use the data. Which pretty much means if you are using it for free, they are using your data. I don't see what is alarming about this, everyone else has either the same policy or no free usage. Hell the surprising this is that they still let free users opt-out...

> everyone else has either the same policy or no free usage

That’s not true. ChatGPT, even in the free tier, allows users to opt out of data sharing.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by agotterer »

wohoef wrote: post #135

A few days ago I tested Claude Code by completely vibe coding a simple stock tracker web app in streamlit python. It worked incredibly well, until it didn't. Seems like there is a critical project size where it just can't fix bugs anymore. Just tried this with Gemini CLI and the critical project size it works well for seems to be quite a bit bigger. Where claude code started to get lost, I simply told Gemini CLI to "…

I wonder how much of this had to do with the context window size? Gemini’s window is 5x larger than Cladue’s.

I’ve been using Claude for a side project for the past few weeks and I find that we really get into a groove planning or debugging something and then by the time we are ready to implement, we’ve run out of context window space. Despite my best efforts to write good /compact instructions, when it’s ready to roll again some of the nuance is lost and the implementation suffers.

I’m looking forward to testing if that’s solved by the larger Gemini context window.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

joelm wrote: post #274

Been using Claude Code (4 Opus) fairly successfully in a large Rust codebase, but sometimes frustrated by it with complex tasks. Tried Gemini CLI today (easy to get working, which was nice) and it was pretty much a failure. It did a notably worse job than Claude at having the Rust code modifications compile successfully. However, Gemini at one point output what will probably be the highlight of my day: "I have made a…

Personally my theory is that Gemini benefits from being able to train on Googles massive internal code base and because Rust has been very low on uptake internally at Google, especially since they have some really nice C++ tooling, Gemini is comparatively bad at Rust.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by jdironman »

mil22 wrote: post #281
ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

There is some information on this buried in configuration.md under "Usage Statistics". They claim: *What we DON'T collect:* - *Personally Identifiable Information (PII):* We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys. - *Prompt and Response Content:* We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model. - *File Content:* We do not log the content…

I wonder what the legal difference between "collect" and "log" is.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by incomingpain »

Giving this a try, I'm rather astounded how effective my tests have gone.

That's a ton of free limit. This has been immensely more successful than void ide.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by jsnell »

asadm wrote: post #76
jsnell wrote: post #68

What's up with printing lame jokes every few seconds? The last thing I want from a tool like this is my eye to be drawn to the window all the time as if something had changed and needs my action. (Having a spinner is fine, having changing variable length text isn't.)

can disable it from accessibility setting. it does show model thinking instead of joke when that’s available.

Thanks, but where are those accessibility settings? /help shows nothing related to settings other than auth and theme, there's no related flags, and there's a ~/.gemini/settings.json that contains just the auth type.

No mention of accessibility in https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/0915bf7d677... either

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