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Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
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Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Libreoffice is already shit. It works don't get me wrong but the project is far behind where it should be.
From the guidelines: > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.
I wouldn't call it a shallow dismissal. If you used Libreoffice you already know the current state of it. It is slow, buggy, way behind in features compared to MS Office and the UI is a mess. If I tried to take Excel away from my co-workers and gave them Libreoffice Calc there would be a riot.
Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#83Don't forget, "open source" is not enough: we need _lean_ open source and I do include the SDK (then programing language). That for software/protocol/file formats (and hardware programing interfaces...). It is much easier to say than done, and when you read that, often it is to apply pressure on microsoft pricing only without a real intent to start to "digitally assume themselves". Keep in mind: there is ZERO, Z-E-R-…
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> Your unrelated, idiotic disdain
Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.
When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."
Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#84Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#85Don't forget, "open source" is not enough: we need _lean_ open source and I do include the SDK (then programing language). That for software/protocol/file formats (and hardware programing interfaces...). It is much easier to say than done, and when you read that, often it is to apply pressure on microsoft pricing only without a real intent to start to "digitally assume themselves". Keep in mind: there is ZERO, Z-E-R-…
I agree with you that the PDF format is insane (I have had my head buried in the spec for the last month) but it has won in the marketplace. It's unlikely anything can supersede it now. Microsoft had a technically strong alternative but it was far too late.
FWIW I distribute HTML with embedded images instead of PDF usually.
Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#86Schleswig-Holstein and Thuringia are switching to OpenTalk for teleconference. It's really wild to see things actually happen - not just research grants and talking.
Munich switched to Linux in 2012. But they switched back to Microsoft in 2020 because they never could get it to work completely. At least not to the level of comfort in the old system. Open source has its advantages, but MS dominates the business world because of its tech support that is truly second to none on that scale. If Europe wants independence, they need to support local businesses and not just technology.
The reason is bribery.
Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, in-house PDF generators should be some sort of good middle ground, but I dunno if this 'weasyprint' is open source, is _lean_ open source? (no c++, java, etc). When dealing with an ultra-complex file format which cannot be dodged, usually a good way to deal with it is to only use a very simple but coherent subset and enforce this usage with validation tools. For instance, the web, noscript/basic (x)html (or you…
Hi, WeasyPrint/pydyf dev here! > usually a good way to deal with it is to only use a very simple but coherent subset and enforce this usage with validation tools You’re right, that’s exactly what we do. We support a growing subset of HTML and CSS that’s documented. We also use the W3C testing suite for HTML/CSS, and PDF validators, on top of custom unit tests. > And big tech is not the only one trying hard to do vend…
How about typst, do you not consider that competition??
Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#88Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, in-house PDF generators should be some sort of good middle ground, but I dunno if this 'weasyprint' is open source, is _lean_ open source? (no c++, java, etc). When dealing with an ultra-complex file format which cannot be dodged, usually a good way to deal with it is to only use a very simple but coherent subset and enforce this usage with validation tools. For instance, the web, noscript/basic (x)html (or you…
Hi, WeasyPrint/pydyf dev here! > usually a good way to deal with it is to only use a very simple but coherent subset and enforce this usage with validation tools You’re right, that’s exactly what we do. We support a growing subset of HTML and CSS that’s documented. We also use the W3C testing suite for HTML/CSS, and PDF validators, on top of custom unit tests. > And big tech is not the only one trying hard to do vend…
"Open" is not enough anymore: it also has to be lean, stable in time, and able to do a good enough _pertinent_ (can be very subjective) job (and in the case of software, that includes the SDK, for instance if some c++ or similar are around, it should be excluded de-facto for obvious reasons).
It is _EXTREMELY_ hard to justify an honnest and permanent income writing software... REALLY HARD.
Re: Lyon Drops Microsoft to Boost Digital Sovereignty
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with you that the PDF format is insane (I have had my head buried in the spec for the last month) but it has won in the marketplace. It's unlikely anything can supersede it now. Microsoft had a technically strong alternative but it was far too late.
FWIW I distribute HTML with embedded images instead of PDF usually.
And I think you can do the same with and ...