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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by surgical_fire »

hermanzegerman wrote: post #126
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on decades of experience with my family: it's only political correctness when other people do it. When they do it, it's just common decency, common sense, family values, etc. And as far as the original story, individual border agents should absolutely not be doing this to people because they have a meme on their phone, doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself. There is straight up no justificati…

What values does the US represent?

Based on the current administration, I can think of 14 words that I will refuse to repeat here.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #88
EA-3167 wrote: post #57

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In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

What percentage of unnecessary and abusive jailings would you - as a rational person - consider acceptable?

Are we talking confirmed? Or Clickbait title?

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Post by neilv »

> He claims he was then strip-searched, forced to give blood samples, a facial scan and fingerprints.

> "Later I was taken back in, and the situation got even worse. I was pushed up against a wall and was strip-searched with a lot of force. They were incredibly harsh and used physical force the whole time," he claimed.

> "I felt completely devastated and broke down, and was close to crying several times. I was on the verge of panic.

That sounds worse than being denied entry.

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Since most of us are rational, logically consistent people I think we’d condemn this as outrageous. Like any rational free-thinking American should.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by gruez »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #108
gruez wrote: post #36

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To be fair something that makes the news isn't necessarily indicative of the median experience either. If US and China both looked through 0.1% of traveler's phones, that'd be both compatible with horror stories making the news, and widespread anecdotes of "weird, never happened to me".

US visa applicants are required to disclose five years of social media history and to make listed accounts public. https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

>disclose five years of social media history

Where does it say that? Your source only says profiles need to be public

Moreover your description is slightly misleading because it only applies to "all applicants for F, M, and J nonimmigrant visas", which notably excludes tourism visas (B-2). The visas listed all seem to be academic related, presumably because the administration wants to crack down on woke ivy league students or whatever.

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Post by kube-system »

Tade0 wrote: post #101
EA-3167 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

This is unheard of anywhere in the developed world. Security at airports simply doesn't have this sort of power outside the US.

Airport security might not, but this is border control, which has the authority to deny entry in every country.

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Post by JadeNB »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #71
Analemma_ wrote: post #51

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A little while ago Scott Alexander did a lengthy post about how Curtis Yarvin, aka Moldbug, has essentially backtracked on everything he ever said about tyranny and these days gleefully cheers on all the things he decried in his early writing. Yarvin's response was, essentially, "You actually believed that I believed that stuff? lmao, idiot. This was about power and now we have it, piss off." Yarvin is unusually cand…

This greatly concerns me. I'm not a historian, but this reminds me a bit of the prelude to the French Revolution: a growing list of grievances against a ruling class by a population that feels abused, disenfranchised, and numerous . Even if one expects to enjoy a sense of Schadenfreude were such a revolution/slaughter to occur, our staples of daily life (food, medicine, electricity, fuel) are distributed over such a…

When I grew up, I found history boring, and didn't understand why we were made to study it. I'd like to think it's partly because I was taught typical jingoistic rah-rah US history, but that's at best only part of the reason.

Anyway, even I, with my paltry education in history, can see the historical parallels. And here I am, versus an oligarchic class that had the opportunity for a world-class education, and surely knows at least as much history as I do. I wonder if they really believe that they've found the way to prevent the inevitable consequences this time, or if they just think that they'll have found some way out, possibly just having passed the buck to the next generation, before the consequences for them come to pass.

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Post by tartoran »

krunck wrote: post #44

This guy was certainly flagged before he got on the plane in Norway. The US has data sharing agreements with lots of countries. His online behaviour was already known. The Trump administration changed the filters for what they're looking for in people's profiles. This guy fit. If you are going to upset the empire with your on and offline behaviour, you better practice solid information hygene.

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