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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by CoastalCoder »

Analemma_ wrote: post #51
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

A little while ago Scott Alexander did a lengthy post about how Curtis Yarvin, aka Moldbug, has essentially backtracked on everything he ever said about tyranny and these days gleefully cheers on all the things he decried in his early writing. Yarvin's response was, essentially, "You actually believed that I believed that stuff? lmao, idiot. This was about power and now we have it, piss off." Yarvin is unusually cand…

This greatly concerns me.

I'm not a historian, but this reminds me a bit of the prelude to the French Revolution: a growing list of grievances against a ruling class by a population that feels abused, disenfranchised, and numerous.

Even if one expects to enjoy a sense of Schadenfreude were such a revolution/slaughter to occur, our staples of daily life (food, medicine, electricity, fuel) are distributed over such a geographically large network, that almost everyone on the country would suffer greatly.

I imagine.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by SpaceL10n »

mellosouls wrote: post #32

Obviously if it is true this is ridiculous and condemnable but it would be nice to have more supporting evidence than this report.

Indeed. The only information we seem to have is the report this young man provided to his local newspaper. There are no corroborating witnesses or evidence thus far that I can find that confirm this incident actually occurred.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by Arubis »

nelsonfigueroa wrote: post #26

Jeez...is the current administration that sensitive to criticism? I wonder if this comment will come back to haunt me some day.

Perhaps the most consistent common thread of despotic and tyrannical types is a complete absence of a sense of humor.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by DocTomoe »

nelsonfigueroa wrote: post #26

Jeez...is the current administration that sensitive to criticism? I wonder if this comment will come back to haunt me some day.

Most likely, this wasn’t official policy — just a low-paid border agent on a personal power trip. Give a man a uniform, and watch him turn tyrant. The Stanford Prison Experiment says hello.

The real problem is that the US system allows individuals with minimal training and virtually no oversight to wield unchecked power over travelers' lives.

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Post by mellosouls »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #65
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

i think political correctness is bad and that this is bad (and that the meme is very funny) too

As did JD Vance who retweeted them himself.

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Post by theyinwhy »

nelsonfigueroa wrote: post #26

Jeez...is the current administration that sensitive to criticism? I wonder if this comment will come back to haunt me some day.

It's anticipatory obedience, "a situation where one attempts to predict expectations others (particularly superiors) have, without explicit communication, and to fulfill (or exceed) those expectations.", see https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/anticipatory_obedience

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Post by BurningFrog »

beambot wrote: post #4
supertrope wrote: post #2

A teacher in school told me about the time they visited East Germany. Armed guards poked though his luggage. It's a slippery slope toward fascism.

East Germany was under communist control after the fascist regime lost the war... It's accurate to describe as "authoritarian", but not "fascist."

For many, everything bad is "fascism", regardless of any similarity to the Mussolini rule of Italy 1922-1943.

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Post by AnotherGoodName »

knorker wrote: post #24
oceansky wrote: post #11

Does even China does that? Go through pics on your personal device at the border? Refuse entry over memes.

Not when I went there. I needed a lot of paperwork for the visa at their embassy, and to surrender my passport for a few days, and a signed statement from my employer that I was not a journalist of any kind. I got in. I was sent to some form of secondary screening, but they apparently couldn't find anybody who could speak English, so they just let me in. Edit: I'm from a rich western country, in case it matters for a…

I did get a weird interaction in China fwiw. Let in fine but at one point i sat down to have lunch at a restaurant and 2 English speaking police officers sat down at my table and started asking if i was doing well etc. I just chatted making sure not to say anything negative about the government, talked about tourist sites and they left, they were fine, no issue. Just a weird interaction.

I guess it's a routine part of China's paranoia. They definitely do do weird things to check if tourists are causing trouble in some way i guess. I imagine that sort of interaction alone would scare off trouble makers and it's probably effective honestly.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by MadnessASAP »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #9

I vote for a campaign to make sure every single entrant has this meme on their phone.

You're making a bet that the country with the largest prison system on earth and 5th highest incarceration rate can't arrest all of us.

You do you but that's gonna be a no for me.

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