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Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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I liked this. It got me thinking: Are there any large consumer software companies (just software; no hardware or retail) that are not advertising based?

Microsoft? They do advertising among other things, but I don't think it makes the largest chunk of their revenue

I'm not sure I'd consider Microsoft consumer focussed. Most of their revenue comes from enterprises, OEM's and Azure.

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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>So what exactly is the "AI lifestyle subsidy" The world's richest subsiding the real cost of offering AI services with the current state of our technology. Once it's clear the AGI won't come anytime in 20X, where X is under 40, money tap will begin to close

> AGI won't come anytime in 20X, where X is under 40 Honestly, I think that's quite generous. And I only phrase it that way, rather than more like "that X should be 99" because trying to predict more than about 15 years out in tech, especially when it comes to breakthroughs, is a fool's errand. But that's what it's going to take to reach AGI: a genuine unforeseeable breakthrough that lets us do new things with machin…

>Honestly, I think that's quite generous. And I only phrase it that way, rather than more like "that X should be 99" because trying to predict more than about 15 years out in tech, especially when it comes to breakthroughs, is a fool's errand.

I know! I set a rather low one to avoid having all the HN LLM Koolaid drinkers and LLM astroturfers have a go at it

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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So what exactly is the "AI lifestyle subsidy"? The article doesn't seem entirely clear on it seeing as the last line essentially asks this same question. Some friends and I have been taking advantage of cheap GPU time from a company trying to break into that space, and of course lots of AI tools are being sold below cost but is that really it? Compare "GPU time is cheaper" to the classical "$10 steaks delivered direc…

The "AI lifestyle subsidy" is a bad analogy to things like 1/3 cost Uber rides which were fun while they lasted. A friend of mine found a hack for the limo service and got about 30 of those for free. I'm not sure people are saying wow, I'm living the AI lifestyle. The dot com boom seems a better model for what's happening now.

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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I am bewildered to hear the sense of "local," in which I and engineers in my experience have for thirty years referred to things which are not remotely hosted, referred to as an "overload."

I thought it was friendlier than "abuse"

Less absurd, anyway. In what sense does one "abuse" a word to use it in its dictionary definition? You appear to be a good example of where this benighted excuse for an industry is headed. Explain it to me.

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The subsidy is blatantly obvious when you compare the cost of self-hosting versus subscription, and the subscription is dramatically dramatically cheaper. The difference between Blue Apron and many AI tools is that the value add does exist. You can cut meal prep from your life, but by 2030, cutting whatever agentic code copilot exists by that point will be like cutting off your fingers for many workers and businesses…

> by 2030, cutting whatever agentic code copilot exists by that point will be like cutting off your fingers

Can you explain how? Will it be all vibe-coding?

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