The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by bobbiechen » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:12 PM UTC

The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end
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Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by throwanem » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:39 PM UTC

This has been coming for a long time and it is why I use local models only. I'm willing to give up capabilities in exchange for being able to trust that whatever biases may exist in the models I do use remain static and predictable.

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by haolez » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:41 PM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #2

This has been coming for a long time and it is why I use local models only. I'm willing to give up capabilities in exchange for being able to trust that whatever biases may exist in the models I do use remain static and predictable.

How do you do it? Do you host on your hardware or do you use cloud-based providers for open models?

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by h1fra » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:42 PM UTC

The hangover will be painful for some people/companies for sure

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by barrenko » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:44 PM UTC

Future ain't what it used to be. The web is dead (worse actually, it's a putrid rotting zombie, destroying our children's lives and ours), but the internet will survive.

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by atentaten » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:46 PM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #2

This has been coming for a long time and it is why I use local models only. I'm willing to give up capabilities in exchange for being able to trust that whatever biases may exist in the models I do use remain static and predictable.

What does your hardware setup look like?

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by AstroBen » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:47 PM UTC

Even if unintentional, pushing of products is already happening. If you ask any AI for a tech stack to create a web app you'll get recommendations for Vercel, AWS and co. This is going to be the new SEO

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by LarsDu88 » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:47 PM UTC

The subsidy is blatantly obvious when you compare the cost of self-hosting versus subscription, and the subscription is dramatically dramatically cheaper.

The difference between Blue Apron and many AI tools is that the value add does exist. You can cut meal prep from your life, but by 2030, cutting whatever agentic code copilot exists by that point will be like cutting off your fingers for many workers and businesses.

Then the extortionate pricing can start rolling in

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by egypturnash » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:50 PM UTC

haolez wrote: post #3

throwanem wrote: post #2

This has been coming for a long time and it is why I use local models only. I'm willing to give up capabilities in exchange for being able to trust that whatever biases may exist in the models I do use remain static and predictable.

How do you do it? Do you host on your hardware or do you use cloud-based providers for open models?

You have a very curious definition of "local" if that includes "cloud-based providers".

Re: The AI lifestyle subsidy is going to end

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Post by unshavedyak » Mon, Jun 23, 2025, 3:50 PM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #2

This has been coming for a long time and it is why I use local models only. I'm willing to give up capabilities in exchange for being able to trust that whatever biases may exist in the models I do use remain static and predictable.

I agree with this, though i'm still using Claude atm. I figure if we're aware of the downsides you pointed at then we can skip the fast changing landscape of self hosting. It keeps getting cheaper and cheaper to self host, so i'm not sure at what point it makes sense to invest.

For me the switching point will probably be when they (AI companies) start the big rug pull. By then my hope is self hosting will be cheaper, better, easier, etc.