A sane voice. Trademark/copyright is enough to protect your product, only in rare cases should a patent be awarded for an algorithm (think RSA).
There shouldn't be any patents for algorithms - algorithms are math, and math is not patentable.
Miguel de Icaza on Samsung v Apple
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Re: Miguel de Icaza on Samsung v Apple
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#23This is slightly off topic, but I don't really understand Miguel de Icaza. He is a "free software programmer" according to Wikipedia, and I really value his contributions to both the GNOME and MONO projects. I am not trying to in anyway put down his acheivements but his comments on social media (G+ and twitter) are often about ordering truckloads of Apple products. Was there a falling out with the Gnome project or wh…
It might be that you have a narrow view of free/open source software. The idea behind it is not all about GNU or Linux or anything. iTerm 2 is a mighty fine open source software -- for OS X.
Open source is not incompatible with Apple or Windows. Nor it is a religion/principle thing to everyone, some see it more casually.
>I appreciate that his company xamarin are working solidly on Mono which is open source, but a number of their products are not open source such as Mono Touch and Mono for Android.
Well, he also has to make money. He tried the open source non commercial approach with Evolution et al, and it didn't work very well for them (or for the Nautilus guys). If it wasn't for Novell buying them they would have nothing to show for today.
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Since when does becoming an advocate for open source make that advocacy exclusive?
Thats not what I'm saying nor am I criticizing him for it. From prior experience, when I make something I can use on a daily basis, I would find it hard to use something different. Also being an advocate for open source software would make it more difficult to transfer to being a closed source software user. I'm not saying its not possible or wrong, I just feel his case is a curious one. He is effectively a self proc…
Well, I think he feels that Gnome failed to build something he can use on a daily basis. Back in 1998 it was all about overtaking Windows and building the platform for the future. That didn't pan out that well -- Windows are still dominant, and OS X is more prevalent and useful as a desktop system than Gnome is. Nowadays Gnome is bleeding developers (GTK, the very core toolkit of Gnome has like 1 maintainer) and mainstream distros even think of switching away from it.
You tend to get disappointed from such outcomes.
Re: Miguel de Icaza on Samsung v Apple
#25This is slightly off topic, but I don't really understand Miguel de Icaza. He is a "free software programmer" according to Wikipedia, and I really value his contributions to both the GNOME and MONO projects. I am not trying to in anyway put down his acheivements but his comments on social media (G+ and twitter) are often about ordering truckloads of Apple products. Was there a falling out with the Gnome project or wh…
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There shouldn't be any patents for algorithms - algorithms are math, and math is not patentable.
Mechanical diagrams are also math.
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Apple's message is that it only pursued Samsung because they so blatantly copied them. That's what they say, but realistically Samsung is the most successful Android vendor and thus the biggest threat to Apple. The lawsuit found the Nexus S to be at fault. That's a device running vanilla Android, co-developed with Google. Let's not pretend this is "only" about Samsung's designs vs Apple's designs. They won win patent…
> That's what they say, but realistically Samsung is the most successful Android vendor and thus the biggest threat to Apple. I think it would be helpful to consider how it is that Samsung became the most successful Android vendor.
Re: Miguel de Icaza on Samsung v Apple
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Apple's message is that it only pursued Samsung because they so blatantly copied them. That's what they say, but realistically Samsung is the most successful Android vendor and thus the biggest threat to Apple. The lawsuit found the Nexus S to be at fault. That's a device running vanilla Android, co-developed with Google. Let's not pretend this is "only" about Samsung's designs vs Apple's designs. They won win patent…
> That's what they say, but realistically Samsung is the most successful Android vendor and thus the biggest threat to Apple. I think it would be helpful to consider how it is that Samsung became the most successful Android vendor.
Because they make some of the highest performance, lightest, thinnest phones with the best screens?
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> That's what they say, but realistically Samsung is the most successful Android vendor and thus the biggest threat to Apple. I think it would be helpful to consider how it is that Samsung became the most successful Android vendor.
By making great phones. Lets not pretend here that Samsung copying the sunflower icon for the photo app and having a connector that looks like the apple one had a major impact on anyone's sales. Edit: downvotes... you guys honestly think that the reason why Samsung has been successful is because of touchwiz? Most people don't even like Samsung's modifications to stock Android. It was stupid of them to make the change…
But above all, their marketing and advertising strategy was unparalleled. I saw a Galaxy ad literally on every road, every TV show, every soccer match and what not! The success was not surprising given how much they effort they put.