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Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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perhaps team up with https://www.getquantbase.com/ that is how i invest in https://www.quiverquant.com/strategies/s/Congress%20Buys/ its a decent platform designed for rebalancing / taxes etc

Serious question: What good are reported trades delayed by months?

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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Seems like you could build the capital fairly quickly if your system works. And you should be able to have people invest in you if you show results.

200%/yr starting from $10,000 => still needs a day job for a number of years. This is why Wall Street is able to hire talented young traders, some of whom will develop profitable systems. Over time, some of them are able to amass enough savings and the track record necessary to get investors. But at t=0, somebody has to pay the rent.

If you can reliably generate 200% a year after fees/taxes/etc, you could just get a bunch of credit cards and use broker margin on top of that. It wouldn't surprise me if you could easily start with 200k at that point. Sure the first year would be rough, like grad student living but you would quickly be in the six figures.

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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This doesn't make as much sense as you think it does. If you could predictably trade a flip from bearish to bullish (for example, of course there are other trend-based signals), you would not share that signal because others would overcrowd your trade (by buying/shorting and moving the price more quickly towards the trending direction than you). A potential argument is that these signals are only applicable to a cert…

Overcrowding an entry on highly liquid assets is something that is so far from reality for our service.

The more highly liquid an asset, the more efficient it is and the fewer trading opportunities after accounting for transaction costs. In something like the S&P 500, everything is already priced in.

Meme stocks and shitcoins being manipulated by whales are not efficient and also not as liquid.

The larger point remains that none of the above considerations are discussed on this product's page.

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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I'm very skeptical of systems that claim to help with trading signals. Primarily because if you had a system, then you would use it yourself. Trading is pretty much a zero sum game especially when it comes to signals. If you had a profitable signal and you publicized it, it would disappear almost immediately. If your performance is correct and you're getting 200% per year, why sell the sauce for $20 a month? I would…

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Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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Seems like you could build the capital fairly quickly if your system works. And you should be able to have people invest in you if you show results.

200%/yr starting from $10,000 => still needs a day job for a number of years. This is why Wall Street is able to hire talented young traders, some of whom will develop profitable systems. Over time, some of them are able to amass enough savings and the track record necessary to get investors. But at t=0, somebody has to pay the rent.

A margin account would put you on fast track if you are sure about your strategy

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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perhaps team up with https://www.getquantbase.com/ that is how i invest in https://www.quiverquant.com/strategies/s/Congress%20Buys/ its a decent platform designed for rebalancing / taxes etc

Serious question: What good are reported trades delayed by months?

The S&P 500 historically returns about 10% annually with a Sharpe ratio around 0.5-0.6. This fund's metrics show it outperforming on both absolute and risk-adjusted bases. The 36.35% CAGR is excellent.

Now, imagine if you could trade on the information when they do.

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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200%/yr starting from $10,000 => still needs a day job for a number of years. This is why Wall Street is able to hire talented young traders, some of whom will develop profitable systems. Over time, some of them are able to amass enough savings and the track record necessary to get investors. But at t=0, somebody has to pay the rent.

A margin account would put you on fast track if you are sure about your strategy

Yes, but even with a margin account you still need money today and gains in the market take some time to accumulate from a small base.

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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Seems like you could build the capital fairly quickly if your system works. And you should be able to have people invest in you if you show results.

200%/yr starting from $10,000 => still needs a day job for a number of years. This is why Wall Street is able to hire talented young traders, some of whom will develop profitable systems. Over time, some of them are able to amass enough savings and the track record necessary to get investors. But at t=0, somebody has to pay the rent.

If you returned 200%/yr, you'd be running a fund an multiple times more successful than Renaissance's Medallion fund and would be able to attract outside capital and become a billionaire many times over in maybe five years.

Re: Show HN: TrendFi – I built AI trading signals that self-optimize

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Not sure, but I personally used their service for 2y and they're the real deal. Looks like they've been around since 2008. So almost 20y now. The main guy that runs it (Chris V) is top notch. I'm not affiliate with them in anyway but I would highly recommend their service to anyone.

- From where, then, did you get the info that "they consistently outperform buy and hold for 10+ years now" ? - What does "they're the real deal" mean? - Two years is not enough to test a strategy like this. 20 years would be better better, but it sounds like they already did that and the strategy fails half the time (hence the 10-year claim)? Does it fail randomly, or did they market a strategy that worked for the f…

They're the real deal means they're not a scam.

I don't know everything about their business. I recommend just looking at their website. They've been in business for nearly 20y and have consistently outperformed buy & hold.

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