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Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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post #51

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Do you think it’s likely the regime will fall?

I have no idea but I sure hope so.

in discussion next door (got flagged) people are claiming that Iran is peace seeking nation that has amazing relationship with it's neighbors and that it amazingly geopolitically positioned and that USA should team up with current Iranian regime and dump Israel.

What's your take on it ?

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

#82
post #49

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> Iran banned WhatsApp and Google Play in 2022 during mass protests against the government So more than fearing Israel, they actually fear the public that has an encrypted communication channel that can't be tapped by their police. Explains a lot.

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He is a US citizen, not an Israeli.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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> Why are we toppling all these foreign governments I don't want to speak to the other foreign governments, and I think there is a LOT of room for healthy criticism of how the USA handles its foreign policy, past & present. But to answer the question directly with respects to Iran, specifically: the leadership has been repeatedly chanting "Death To America" for its 45 year history and have been actively trying to dev…

> have been actively trying to develop a nuclear weapon program The US Director of National Intelligence testified to congress a few weeks ago that no US intelligence agency believes that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb, and that they believed Iran was at least 3 years away from having the ability to build a nuclear bomb even if they tried. What you are saying directly contradicts what US intelligence agencies have…

Not to mention the Ayatollah has had a long standing fatwa against the procurement of nuclear weapons.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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post #49

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> Iran banned WhatsApp and Google Play in 2022 during mass protests against the government So more than fearing Israel, they actually fear the public that has an encrypted communication channel that can't be tapped by their police. Explains a lot.

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Do you have a source for this?

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

#86
post #39

WhatsApp is already banned in Iran. It's difficult to see this as anything but another attempt by them to gain control over private communications involving their own people. To me, the most interesting thing about this conflict is the side-choosing of the other nations, because that reveals what kind of games they're playing.

> the most interesting thing about this conflict is the side-choosing of the other nations Could you elaborate on that? Is anyone behaving out of the totally expected?

Russia and China totally expected, they don't help much. Except for Turkey NATO on Israel's side, not surprising. Iraq open sky used for airstrikes. Muslim 'allies' probably help refueling Israelis planes. The rest of the world doesn't care much.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

#87
post #7

I find the wordsmithery on Meta's statement the most interesting: “We do not track your *PRECISE* location, we don’t keep logs of who everyone is messaging and we do not track the *PERSONAL* messages people are sending one another," it added. “We do not provide *BULK* information to any government.”

"we don’t keep logs of who EVERYONE is messaging"

just selected people then?

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

#88
post #43

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> Why are we toppling all these foreign governments I don't want to speak to the other foreign governments, and I think there is a LOT of room for healthy criticism of how the USA handles its foreign policy, past & present. But to answer the question directly with respects to Iran, specifically: the leadership has been repeatedly chanting "Death To America" for its 45 year history and have been actively trying to dev…

I don't pretend this is an argument at all in towards the situation in Iran, so don't quote me as justifying action or inaction there in regards to this, but it is interesting to take note North Korea actually has dozens of real nuclear weapons and the death to America rhetoric and all we seem to do is laugh at them. Of course NK has no real ability to blow up the US, but they could likely nuke or at least obliterate…

NK isn’t paying people to bomb SK every other week.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

#90
post #24

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Tribal?

LoL exactly what I thought. Persians are extremely proud of being NOT tribal, unlike their Azeri, Afghani, Turkmeni or Tajik neighbours. Most Persians consider themselves proud inheritors of the Achaemenid and Sassanid Empires.

There are in fact tribes of Turkmen, Shahsevan, Lurs, Qashqai and various Kurds in Iran.
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