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David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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Stop eating fish. The fishing industry is destroying the oceans.

Individual actions won’t change the system, you need collective organised action

That is a complete paradox because you not only cannot have collective organized action without individual ones but the previous is entirely composed of the latter.

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/unfairness No mention of billionaires. Show me one billionaires in nature beside mankind. Billionaires now and then are artificially created by the systems mankind creates. They are an anomaly

This is just garbage. Not going to respond further to this.

You could just say you have no arguments

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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post #152

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This is just garbage. Not going to respond further to this.

You could just say you have no arguments

I do but your citation of the dictionary is fucking obviously not a legit argument so I won’t bother with you.

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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post #152

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You could just say you have no arguments

I do but your citation of the dictionary is fucking obviously not a legit argument so I won’t bother with you.

You came up with the definition part, and dictionaries show definitions.

Billionaires are an extreme example of unfairness not the definition. Otherwise most unfair things would be unfair at all compared to the unfairness of billionaires.

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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Stop eating fish. The fishing industry is destroying the oceans.

Individual actions won’t change the system, you need collective organised action

why not both, if the point for both is to reach the same goal?

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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David Attenborough narrated some of my favorite paleontology documentaries.

You seen Prehistoric Planet [0]? The CGI is so good, you can practically smell the beasties. [0] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Planet

My favorite is "Lost worlds, vanished lives". Very few CG (I don't think there is any), very good demonstration, superb music.

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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post #146

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Africa's fertility rate is dropping fast : 40 years it was above 6, 20 years ago it was above 5, and it dropped by 0.6 in the last ten years. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/afr/afr... most projections expect Africa's population to peak around 2070, which is less than the timeframe GP considered.

Could you share these projections that say Africa's population is going to peak around 2070. I cannot find any.

actually I may have mis-remembered this, sorry. Possibly I was thinking of population change peaking, but I can't say for sure.

https://population.un.org/wpp/graphs?loc=903&type=Probabilis...

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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There is no single "point of no return". We have obviously passed the point where bad consequences can be avoided, but every extra ton of CO2 and methane makes things a bit worse. I worry that the sentiment of "we have passed the point of no return" induces an impotent apathy in people, when the truth is that every step in the right direction makes our future a little bit less dire.

Folks are worried about phase change, the flip from one set of patterns to a different set of patters. That is much different than a linear "every ton makes things a bit worse". There is going to be big fundamental change, but people need to stop thinking about it like "the sky is falling" and instead ask "how are we going to adapt?" People are going to have to move to where water is available, to where heat is less…

To be clear, I'm worried about phase changes too, and I probably made it sound more gradual than it actually is. But there will be more than just one phase major change, and for any particular phase change, less CO2 makes it less likely.

Thanks for the clarification.

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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Stop eating fish. The fishing industry is destroying the oceans.

Individual actions won’t change the system, you need collective organised action

This is organizing.

We're inviting you to join the collective of people who don't eat fish.

Our main activity is finding and encouraging others to not eat fish. If you'd like to organize more collective action, we will probably be interested!

But the baseline is actually inaction. First, do no harm.

Re: David Attenborough at 99: 'I will not see how the story ends'

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Greenpeace used to drop boulders into the ocean to prevent bottom trawling circa 2021-2022. Unsure if they still do. Fairly straightforward to solve for if you’re willing to drop chunks of rock (granite, non reactive) or concrete in the ocean at the right spots. Bans are nice, destructive force against adversaries works better though. Hard to take the selfish out of the human, so you have to engineer systems accordin…

I think it would be a great PR idea for a billionaire to buy a few old ships and use them to drop rocks over the most popular/vulnerable fishing grounds. What happened to rich people who were all not evil?

> What happened to rich people who were all not evil?

probably the same thing that happened to dragons and unicorns :) can anything happen to something that has never existed?

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