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Meta invests $14.3B in Scale AI to kick-start superintelligence lab

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Re: Meta invests $14.3B in Scale AI to kick-start superintelligence lab

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Post by strict9 »

jajko wrote: post #95
strict9 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off base when considering the likes of Palantir and many others. Not a fan of the person or many of Meta's business practices. But Meta has given a lot back with Llama and PyTorch, among many other open source contributions. Which others in the space are not doing.

2 different topics, who you are (as a person, or company or other group of people) isn't some scale where you add + and - and judge final number. Bad/evil deeds define us 1000x more than positive ones and thats our lasting legacy and how we are/will be judged.

I agree with all of that.

The point was to counter the statement that Meta is the most ruthless and shameless of all companies.

The most ruthless and shameless company would not give back a lot of useful free open source software for hobbyists and companies to use.

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Post by htrp »

Meta is effectively getting access to all of the training data that every other frontier Lab ever requested from scale so that they can recreate it.

unclear whether wang is bringing a copy of all the data that they previously labeled as part of this 49% stake.

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Post by rybosome »

krosaen wrote: post #92

Anyone know what scale does these days beyond labeling tools that would make them this interesting to Meta? Data labeling tools seem more of a traditional software application and not much to do with AI models themselves that would be somewhat easily replicated, but guessing my impression is out of date. Also now apparently their CEO is leaving [1], so the idea that they were super impressed with him doesn't seem to…

Scale has also built massive amounts of proprietary datasets that they license to the big players in training.

Meta, Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. all use Scale data in training.

So, the play I’m guessing is to shut that tap off for everyone else now, and double down on using Scale to generate more proprietary datasets.

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Post by b0a04gl »

bix6 wrote: post #7

This is a weird deal? Meta buys a non-controlling stake and says no customers will be affected but the CEO and others are leaving Scale for Meta. Meta also says they won’t have access to competitor data but at 49% ownership they get major investor rights? Sounds like an acqui-kill to me?

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Post by cma »

kubb wrote: post #108
deviation wrote: post #81

Reminds me of "Don't dig for the gold, sell the shovels". Could also be read: > Meta spends 10% of last year's revenue to acquire 49% of a top AI data company and poach their leadership, to ensure they are a key player in what could be a ~5-trillion dollar industry by 2033. Meta has a history of this. Acquiring Oculus (and leaning in on VR), Ray-Ban partnership (and leaning in on AR)... etc. These all just seem like…

Remember the Metaverse delusion? People forgot about that as if Zuck wasn't walking around telling us we'd hang out with friends in virtual spaces, and do activities with goggles on. I really have got to think about that every time people act like these overvalued companies with unlimited funds know what they're doing.

Roblox, Rec Room, Epic/Fortnite are worth about 10-20% of Meta. There is a market there, Horizon just hasn't worked out and they don't have anything like the amount of technology behind Unreal Engine/Fortnite or even Roblox, closer to Rec Room but without the game design chops.

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Post by b0a04gl »

stingraycharles wrote: post #30

From my perspective, Meta is doing pretty reasonable with their AI compared to eg Apple. What is their end goal with AI? I understand Google, Anthropic and OpenAI try to cater to a certain audience with their AI products. I understand the way Apple wants (but is failing) to integrate AI into their products. What’s Meta’s strategy here? What’s their vision?

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Post by WXLCKNO »

paxys wrote: post #79

Spending $15B to hire a 28 year old to build you some AI is certainly a move. You can call Zuck many things, but "afraid to take risks" isn't one of them.

Mentioning his age to diminish his value and accomplishments is certainly a move.

How old are you and what have you achieved more than Alexandr Wang?

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