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US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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> Ciro Pellegrino, who heads the Naples newsroom of an investigative news outlet called Fanpage.it, received a notice on April 29 that his iPhone had been targeted. Last year, Fanpage secretly infiltrated the youth wing of Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party and filmed some of them making fascist and racist remarks. It's never a good look going after journalists, but this seems especially petty.

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This is my irritating reminder that there is a whole marketplace of implant/CNE products, most of which you have never heard of, produced in basically every jurisdiction in the world. It used to be NSO Group that got all the press, now it's Paragon, and I think it's all for the good that the spotlight gets shone on these companies, but do keep in mind that this is not an "Israeli" phenomenon. There are American compa…

> Wherever it is you live that you feel is morally superior to America and Israel on commercialized CNE

It's not the tech (or lack of it) that makes me feel morally superior. It's the choice to use that tech to defend literal facists that I would find embarassing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chomsky described these countries as "mercenary states". One of his books, Understanding Power, dives into the topic quite a bit.

Chomsky has supported "anti-imperialist" russia and ignored all warnings by the eastern European people, who dared to walk out on socialism in a freedom movement. Blood on the hands, blood on the quill, blood in the will..

That might be true, but it doesn't disprove the fact that this is happening, does it?

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Just out of curiosity - would you describe companies that are commonly in the spotlight as more mercenary than average?

Absolutely not. Some of them are far more ruthless, some of them much more principled.

I've seen you reference these actors previously. Is there a reason you won't name them? Is this an industry code of silence, or fear of retribution?

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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You're not gonna find technical details in an AP article of all places. You will find it in CitizenLab's report: https://citizenlab.ca/2025/06/first-forensic-confirmation-of...

There isn’t much technical details there either. They list the servers it connected to and log entry but that’s it. It mentions a CVE number but the apple link is generic and mo details on the CVE database. Has this even been fixed by apple?

we talking about state sponsored actor with zero day vuln here

You would not find info anywhere

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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post #128

Stuff like this will just keep happening unless a major jurisdiction goes after these digital mercinaries. The fact that we ignore all laws for no reason other than "our agencies really like spying on people" is laughable. Literally crime as a service, sanctioned by most governments. Should not be surprising that such criminal organizations use their tools to spy on people who don't deserve it.

There is a higher chance that vendors take OS development more seriously when it comes to security...

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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post #288

This is my irritating reminder that there is a whole marketplace of implant/CNE products, most of which you have never heard of, produced in basically every jurisdiction in the world. It used to be NSO Group that got all the press, now it's Paragon, and I think it's all for the good that the spotlight gets shone on these companies, but do keep in mind that this is not an "Israeli" phenomenon. There are American compa…

how come each time researchers find a new spyware, it's always an Israeli shop behind it ? maybe because Israel has developed an ecosystem and an industry around spying. I think it's evil to try to deflect the blame from israel given the fact it's currently committing genocide in Palestine

because all of this private company linked to the former elite cyber unit that israel army has

its not surprising since israel intelligence unit one of the best in the world

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post #171

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I mean what can you feasibly do against these zero-click exploits? There's only really two things you can do: 1. keep your phone's identifiers secret, as they must target the devices in some way (like phone number/email/whatever) or 2. don't own a phone

Own two phones? Phone 1 - with sim and is exploited, no data or apps. Phone 2 - different OS, no sim, uses portable hotspot from phone 1 and has all the apps and data.

in this current world is not possible to leave "no traces" and expect you would not get find out because it literally is

its an anomaly having an "no data" especially in this ever digitized world

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post #17

There is now a rich history in outsourcing activities that would otherwise be illegal to other countries where it is legal. For example, the CIA's extreme rendition [1], knowingly sending prisoners to countries to be tortured and/or executed. This is how such countries make themselves useful to American empire. Likewise, restrictions on the NSA spying on American citizens, for example, are bypassed by outsourcing tha…

"I honestly don't know how people work on things like Pegasus knowing it's being used to target and kill journalists and politicians." You can make many people do pretty much anything under orders, and even more by rewarding them. "I was just putting food on the table for my family..." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

FYI Milgram is one of the many popular examples of fake science, wiki link has some critical review links

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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1. No they didn't, and that's not controversial. Even the most cursory Google search can dispell you of this notion. 2. "The world is messy" does not excuse countless war crimes. Imagine a lawyer in the Nuremberg trials saying "well sure the defendant sent children to the gas chamber, but your honor, have you considered that the world is a messy place?"

Please point me to the period of time that the US sent children to the gas chamber.

No I won't because I never said they did. But there's plenty of war crimes to point to though. Surely you've seen the picture of the girl on fire because of napalm. You've seen the torture of innocent civilians in the Iraq war. You know about the use of cluster bombs in Iraq. You know they cut off the water to Fallujah. You know of the highway of death. You know they've made close to a million people homeless in Cambodia and Laos, countries that weren't even involved in the war. You know about the illegal invasion of Iraq. You know about the excess mortality of 500,000 children after the gulf war. You know about the mass killing of nearly a million people in Indonesia in the sixties perpetrated by troops trained in, armed by, and supplied with kill lists by America. You know of the troops that killed 160,000 Guatamalans, armed by America, and described by Reagan as great humanitarians. You've seen Gaza.

These are all war crimes, and they are war crimes because they knowingly and actively target civilians. And honestly, at the end of the day it doesn't matter much to me whether you kill a kid by shoving them into a gas chamber or by shooting them, or by dropping bombs or napalm on preschools, because either way you've murdered a child.

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