US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

Post by tptacek » Fri, Jun 13, 2025, 5:47 AM UTC

slim wrote: post #288

tptacek wrote: post #131

This is my irritating reminder that there is a whole marketplace of implant/CNE products, most of which you have never heard of, produced in basically every jurisdiction in the world. It used to be NSO Group that got all the press, now it's Paragon, and I think it's all for the good that the spotlight gets shone on these companies, but do keep in mind that this is not an "Israeli" phenomenon. There are American compa…

how come each time researchers find a new spyware, it's always an Israeli shop behind it ? maybe because Israel has developed an ecosystem and an industry around spying. I think it's evil to try to deflect the blame from israel given the fact it's currently committing genocide in Palestine

Post by mafuyu » Fri, Jun 13, 2025, 6:07 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #291

slim wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how come each time researchers find a new spyware, it's always an Israeli shop behind it ? maybe because Israel has developed an ecosystem and an industry around spying. I think it's evil to try to deflect the blame from israel given the fact it's currently committing genocide in Palestine

Based on what you're saying, I think I know more about this market than you do. I'm comfortable with who does and does not take me seriously. For those people who do: this "Israel" stuff is not useful for understanding what's happening in the world with respect to CNE tools.

Post by Gud » Fri, Jun 13, 2025, 6:23 AM UTC

botanical wrote: post #292

North Korean and Chinese hackers are soundly shunned but for some reason it's always a "company" from a pariah country like Apartheid Israel that are able to sell their software weapons to indiscriminately target any civilian from any country.

Post by herbst » Fri, Jun 13, 2025, 6:33 AM UTC

udev4096 wrote: post #283

> Graphite allows the operator to covertly access applications, including encrypted messengers like Signal and WhatsApp That's pretty obvious. Signal doesn't protect you against full device compromise. Any app can trivially extract your signal conversations

Post by PeterStuer » Fri, Jun 13, 2025, 6:38 AM UTC

kennywinker wrote: post #8

breppp wrote: post #4

It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

Headlines are written by the publisher not the author. They’re written to maximize readership. The fact that spying happened in italy by italians is mostly only interesting to italians. The fact that the US backs an israeli company that sells spying tools is interesting to many more people. You can see the selling clicks, but because they’re not twisting the truth or saying something misleading - in this case I mostl…