If they manipulate the feed (add, hide, reorder) then they should be held liable for user content.
Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content
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Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content
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> Wat. Plenty of people out there who enjoyed the military dictatorship. Did you know the Lua programming language was born in it? The military wanted to replace technology imports with native products. That gave rise to industry and technology. We even tried making our own computers once. That bit of history has been posted to HN at least once. I can totally see why they'd prefer that to the current Brazil which is…
> Plenty of people out there who enjoyed the military dictatorship Fair enough. I imagine the military dictatorship wouldn’t be too happy with folks trying to overthrow it. Part of designing a stable state is maneouvering against such volatility.
This state is anything but stable. The supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country. For some reason they didn't maneuver against that.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not a problem. They wanted to be ruled by the military. That's a valid political stance which should not be censored. A military coup is attempted when armed forces actually show up to overthrow you. When the heroic brazilian military showed up, it was to arrest the protesters.
> Not a problem. They wanted to be ruled by the military. That's a valid political stance which should not be censored. Wat. (EDIT: Sure? In a country with a history of not managing this well, however, it’s also dangerous. When manifested as a riot, that danger becomes clear and present.) > it was to arrest the protesters who were begging the military on their knees to save them Rioters who broke into the federal bui…
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> only that had been enough to fix things. Exactly! You, just like the people that was there and now are in jail, wanted that to "fix things", or calling it for the right name, a coup. It didn't work well.
I don't blame them at all. Who are you supposed to turn to when the supreme court starts censoring you? There's no one else above them.
They even literally asked for Extra-Terrestrial help. Funny times.
Awaiting 4 years for the next election is not that painful.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
oh damn, that has worked so well for the people being placed in prison due to their speech, the students having their visas revoked and all activists that have been killed by the government. americans really live in a different planet. you only have freedom of speech when your speech is irrelevant or when it doesn't conflict with the views of the elites.
>people being placed in prison due to their speech, the students having their visas revoked and all activists that have been killed by the government Let's address your points: 2) There's nothing illegal or wrong with student visas being revoked with reason. You break the law, your visa gets revoked, it's that simple. It's part of the terms and conditions of immigrating on a visa in any civilized country with a rule…
the law the students broke was "writing an oped in the college paper", this is just pure bullshit.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
>people being placed in prison due to their speech, the students having their visas revoked and all activists that have been killed by the government Let's address your points: 2) There's nothing illegal or wrong with student visas being revoked with reason. You break the law, your visa gets revoked, it's that simple. It's part of the terms and conditions of immigrating on a visa in any civilized country with a rule…
the law the students broke was "writing an oped in the college paper", this is just pure bullshit.
Still no source provided. You also mentioned government killings. Where's the source for that?
I'll end the conversation here since I've had enough.
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> YouTubers and TikTokers go out of their way not to use certain words that lead to being demonetised or having their reach limited. They use euphemisms like unalive or grape instead of suicide and rape. I'm with you on finding this personally annoying. But the question is whether a dedicated forum for discussing suicide or rape, one where the incentives of an unqualified influencer paid by views and product endorsem…
Who is going to join a forum dedicated to discussing rape? Absolute weirdos, that's who. But you're not going to enact any kind of broad societal change by talking only to those weirdos. You need to reach a broad audience and convince them this is a problem worth tackling.
> Who is going to join a forum dedicated to discussing rape? Absolute weirdos
The folks who go to these [1] and these [2].
We are way into that at least I am not knowledgeable about. I’d be curious about an expert’s take on the value of unmoderated YouTube and TikTok content on this issue.
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Plenty of people out there who enjoyed the military dictatorship Fair enough. I imagine the military dictatorship wouldn’t be too happy with folks trying to overthrow it. Part of designing a stable state is maneouvering against such volatility.
This state is anything but stable. The supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country. For some reason they didn't maneuver against that.
> supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country
Let’s say that’s true. How is this structurally dissimilar from the military being in charge?
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't blame them at all. Who are you supposed to turn to when the supreme court starts censoring you? There's no one else above them.
They even literally asked for Extra-Terrestrial help. Funny times. Awaiting 4 years for the next election is not that painful.
I think it's sad, not funny.
Supreme court judges are not elected. They don't even have to pass tests.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> By that logic, the USA also wants to become like China. Yes it (or at least the presently ruling faction) absolutely wants that substantively, but with a White Christian nationalist rather than Communist rhetorical focus. Not really the kind of “by that logic...” that is useful for rebutting the argument it targets.
> that is useful for discretion the argument it targets. dissecting? discussing? It serves to make a reader ponder whether an individual (judge or POTUS) sets the mood of an entire country (does Brazil or the US 'want' what a judge or POTUS wants?) and reminds us that the current US administration admires strongarm tactics.
Your comments are appreciated. I wasn't aware of the information you posted.