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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by celticninja »

dhruvrajvanshi wrote: post #419
ijidak wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you read? I’m an economist reader too for weekly news. Would love other sources, but it’s hard to find anything with similar depth and a similar lack of sensational-ization found in most news. Edit: Oh, and global reach. The economist covers earth in almost equal detail for every region. Not quite equal of course, but darn close compared to most outlets.

I think WSJ is a good complement to the Economist. They have good, unsensationalized coverage of the facts. I ignore their opinion columns as they don't seem very serious.

That's just another Murdoch rag, I wouldn't wipe my arse with it. Better no news than his news. You aren't getting any sort of counterpoint you are getting whatever supports his world view.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by dghlsakjg »

snickerbockers wrote: post #93
m4tthumphrey wrote: post #2

Seems like they lost power? https://x.com/georgiameloniii/status/1933091545248641248

jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best. Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to a…

They put airports where there is room to put them. Frequently that means that they are well outside cities since finding space for a few 2 mile runways in the city is difficult.

However, there are plenty of airports in major cities and built up areas (in both developed and developing countries), and I have never heard of avoiding building in areas due to the (remote) possibility of crashes.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by anon84873628 »

rawgabbit wrote: post #393
msravi wrote: post #280

CCTV capture of complete takeoff: https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1933165937399648447

Extremely slow takeoff. The engines appeared to have both quit. And the plane did a slow descent and crash.

Those slow seconds of falling must be psychological torture. If I'm in a plane crash I want it to be instantaneous.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by snypher »

arccy wrote: post #172
chromehearts wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No correlation between non-functional displays on passenger seats & possible engine failures etc.

They could both point to poor maintenance by the airline

Is the inflight map for the passengers on the minimum equipment list?

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Post by dghlsakjg »

snickerbockers wrote: post #384
placardloop wrote: post #305

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No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.

that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i... . I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.

It is 400m from the threshold of 19L/1R to the nearest residential neighborhood at SFO. LGA, which is an incredibly urban airport has the exact same distance from the end of its closest runway to the nearest residential area.

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Post by platevoltage »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25

Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.

This tip goes for pretty much any non-aviation breaking news as well.

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Post by platevoltage »

lxgr wrote: post #271
roywiggins wrote: post #262

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Unfortunately for everyone's brains, this turned out to basically not be true with COVID- only real news fans (or people with expertise in the relevant science, but there are way less of those) were remotely aware that offices probably weren't going to be closed for only two weeks[0]. If you followed the news closely you stocked up on toilet paper when there were runs on it in Hong Kong, before there were runs on it…

If nobody followed the news or social media, there wouldn’t have been runs on toilet paper to begin with, as there never was a shortage to begin with and it was all just mass hysteria.

I'll never understand why bidets are so niche in the USA especially after there are TP shortages every couple of years.

Not to mention how gross cleaning yourself with dry tissue is.

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Post by rsync »

LostMyLogin wrote: post #294
nindalf wrote: post #205

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Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

I really enjoy the Monocle "Globalist" podcast which is well-produced, of global range, and a welcome departure from the npr/kqed bubble I was immersed in.

It comes out daily.

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