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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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No correlation between non-functional displays on passenger seats & possible engine failures etc.

They could both point to poor maintenance by the airline

In other words, they are the "No green jellybeans" clause, proving the vendor didn't thoroughly check all the details.

I'm a system engineer - the hardware kind, not the more familiar network kind - and that is my job.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

Le Monde Diplomatique

https://mondediplo.com/

Available in many languages

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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I was just watching something the other day about how jet engines have gotten more efficient and powerful over the last 50 years where commercial airliners really only need 2 engines. All 2 engine aircraft also have to be able to operate on 1 engine as well if there is a failure. One has to wonder if this was a bird strike incident on both engines that maybe having 4 engines would have allowed the plane to circle bac…

I don't think there's ever been a double-bird-strike incident, though. And what dual engine failures I can think of are due to failure of a shared system (e.g. fuel exhaustion, c.f. Gimli Glider). [Edit: yeah, yeah, forgot the Tom Hanks movie, sue me. I do wish folks would respond to the much more important point below, which isn't invalidated by a single data point though.] Constructing solutions for multiple-mode f…

Everyone's sassing you about forgetting.

But in the video of the plane taking off and crashing, there's no clear, obvious, or tell-tale "poof" of bird turning into exhaust as there often is in bird strikes.

That doesn't rule it out.

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> I'm just reciting what's been shown in videos Of unknown provenance, with unknown visual artefacts, et cetera . Even if completely legit, with context and thus chain of causation obscured to the point that discerning ultimate and proximate causes is impossible.

Some people trust their own thinking to judge what they see. We know it called mayday and then lost communication. It also stopped transmitting GPS data. Looking at this it likely lost all electric power. The electric power comes from generators driven by the turbines. If you lose both turbines you lose electricity. You also lose the hydraulic system so you can not get in the gear or change flaps. Occam's razor check…

Don’t these Dreamliners also have back batteries?

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No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.

that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i... . I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.

SFO is surrounded by numerous highways, office buildings, and residential areas

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Just read The Economist. Only comes out weekly!

Yep, I subscribe to the Le Monde weekly, 10 printed pages newspaper delivered home. Enough to know what's what and done.

Considering the amount of cash and/or subsidies that Le Monde has received in the last 30 years from the French government, you may as well read the Pravda. Nobody bites the hand that feeds them.

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Unfortunately for everyone's brains, this turned out to basically not be true with COVID- only real news fans (or people with expertise in the relevant science, but there are way less of those) were remotely aware that offices probably weren't going to be closed for only two weeks[0]. If you followed the news closely you stocked up on toilet paper when there were runs on it in Hong Kong, before there were runs on it…

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Please don’t do this here.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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It's also possible to just not read news altogether.

Good way to cure a news addiction: Read news from years ago, see how much of it was actually accurate and meaningful in retrospect.

years ago i wanted to make a site where you could log promises/predictions made in news media and then get a reminder to come back and check if it actually happened. This would be useful for all the doom and gloom headlines and predictions, especially economic ones.
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