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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by marsa »

ijidak wrote: post #362
andrepd wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you're missing out and stunting your own worldview if you stick to only one source of information (regardless of which it is).

What do you read? I’m an economist reader too for weekly news. Would love other sources, but it’s hard to find anything with similar depth and a similar lack of sensational-ization found in most news. Edit: Oh, and global reach. The economist covers earth in almost equal detail for every region. Not quite equal of course, but darn close compared to most outlets.

https://newlinesmag.com/ has been a favorite of mine lately if you wanna give that a try, it's got global coverage and there's always something interesting to read

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by placardloop »

snickerbockers wrote: post #384
placardloop wrote: post #305

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No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.

that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i... . I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.

There’s a massive, incredibly dense neighborhood of houses and offices less than 1000 feet to the south, west, and north of every one of SFOs runways.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by mkfs »

jharohit wrote: post #383

one dude sitting in 11A jumped out & survived pretty much unharmed. This was the Emergency Exit. https://x.com/indiatoday/status/1933160181871099943?s=46

Given the fake news that came out of India after Sindoor, with the government insisting no fighters were lost even after third-party confirmation from France and the US, I'm hesitant to believe a purported "sole survivor" silver lining narrative when the only evidence is a few still photos and some brief video clips, especially in the age of AI.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by LanceH »

dingaling wrote: post #328
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25

Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.

A week isn't long enough. Just wait for the official report.

I mentally earmark a month and wait for something "official" or at least some expert analysis which can be confirmed. I'm not sure what the experts could discern from any video that's out there, but sometimes it's a lot.

I'm reminded of the crane collapse in Seattle that had pictures afterward and the pins were no longer in it. The expert analysis I had seen discussing it had said the pins don't just come out in a crane collapse, and where the join the sections the crane would be at its strongest. He was, of course, lit up by those with possible agendas saying "you can't speculate". He was right in the end.

So with the crane collapse it was interesting to see it all play out, but it's a matter of keeping perspective. There were literal pictures of the pins not being in place. Explanation that those pins should not be removed until later in the disassembly of the crane. Then there was the other "side" hurling accusations at him. Finally the official report.

Keeping perspective to me is that yes, I want to know what caused it. But I'm also interested along the way that some people/companies/govts seem to have a vested interest in shaping the story. So I don't run with any of it, but I try to remember who said what, even though nobody ever seems to be responsible for being batshit crazy.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by baq »

basisword wrote: post #366
baq wrote: post #20

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You ain’t walking away from a fully fueled aircraft crashing unfortunately…

This guy did: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3v6drp96zo

holy shit. relatively unscathed at that. I retract my statement obviously.

he must've been thrown out at just the right angle to not hit too much along the way...

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by mindslight »

closewith wrote: post #70
glimshe wrote: post #61

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I think he's implying that countries near the equator are underdeveloped and thus the crash could have been caused by human factors (such as negligence)

As opposed to the predictable accidents of the Amazon and Guyanan basins? Apart from the casual racism of lumping together areas of three continents in your generalisation, it was lazy racism as at 23 degrees North, Ahmedabad is close in latitude to Florida and far outside the 5-10 degree equitorial zone.

Have you been to Florida?

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by dhruvrajvanshi »

LostMyLogin wrote: post #294
nindalf wrote: post #205

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Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

I also read the Economist. Other than that, Wall Street Journal is quite good at purely factual, unopinionated coverage. Note that their Opinion section is heavily biased towards the American right, but I mostly ignore it. It's clearly labeled as Opinion.

Between the Economist and WSJ, I get a good overview of opinions and facts.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by potato3732842 »

kitd wrote: post #377
storus wrote: post #333

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Seat 11A. That's interesting, typically most survivors are located in the back, this one was in the front-center.

11A was next to the emergency exit. There was a comment on Reddit suggesting he actually bailed just before impact.

That doesn't make sense. 100+mph into terrain is going to go way worse for you out of a seat than in it.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by dhruvrajvanshi »

ijidak wrote: post #362
andrepd wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you're missing out and stunting your own worldview if you stick to only one source of information (regardless of which it is).

What do you read? I’m an economist reader too for weekly news. Would love other sources, but it’s hard to find anything with similar depth and a similar lack of sensational-ization found in most news. Edit: Oh, and global reach. The economist covers earth in almost equal detail for every region. Not quite equal of course, but darn close compared to most outlets.

I think WSJ is a good complement to the Economist. They have good, unsensationalized coverage of the facts. I ignore their opinion columns as they don't seem very serious.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by divan »

LostMyLogin wrote: post #294
nindalf wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

https://legiblenews.com
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