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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by rectang »

apples_oranges wrote: post #148
bartread wrote: post #73

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Yeah, I think I might wait for the MentourPilot take on this one. I can't see any benefit in speculating. Horrifying that it came down in a residential area with almost all its fuel still on board though. The aftermath is beyond belief.

I know it's not his fault, hate the player not the game, but he will make what off this crash (and his analysis ofc)? $10k? I remember long ago he said he would not report on crashes but that's what people want so no blame..

I find MentourPilot’s consultant persona grating and avoid his content, but in terms of sensationalism there are far worse.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by roywiggins »

officeplant wrote: post #292
roywiggins wrote: post #262

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Unfortunately for everyone's brains, this turned out to basically not be true with COVID- only real news fans (or people with expertise in the relevant science, but there are way less of those) were remotely aware that offices probably weren't going to be closed for only two weeks[0]. If you followed the news closely you stocked up on toilet paper when there were runs on it in Hong Kong, before there were runs on it…

That was pure panic. I live in the gulf coast. Anytime there is a minor chance we are getting hit by a hurricane people panic buy and suddenly there isn't any water on the shelves anymore. You'll see average folks with 20 cases of water being shoved in their massive SUVs for a family of 3.

Sure. However, I bought a large pack of toilet paper when I saw headlines about hoarding in HK, before the shelves began to dwindle here, and thus dodged the whole thing. That it was basically panic is neither here nor there: paying too close attention to far-off news did actually pay off in a tiny way.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by jjude »

ChrisGreenHeur wrote: post #187
blitzar wrote: post #102

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Pro tip from a lifelong life enthusiast: if its breaking news, wait one week - first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive. Flick through last weeks newspaper if you need reassurance.

It's also possible to just not read news altogether.

If you don't read news, you are uninformed. If you read news, you are misinformed

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by garciasn »

jfinnery wrote: post #289
garciasn wrote: post #238

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Why? Because I personally believe those who are not regularly informed are exacerbating the problem in why the electorate makes the decisions it does.

You could spend the time you'd have spent reading the news instead reading actual books on history, poli sci and political philosophy, ethics, economics, et c., and then figure out who the right person to vote for is and what the right votes on various issues are in like 30 minutes of search-n-skim per election. This pattern would result in a far better-informed voter than one who diligently follows the news all the…

I have a BA in history and a MPA in public administration. I have already done a ton of that work: research, academic analysis/writing, and understanding. I agree these things are INCREDIBLY important to have a great foundational understanding of how the world works/worked; however, understanding current events is JUST AS IMPORTANT.

But; I'm done arguing w/you as it's clear your opinion will remain unchanged regardless of any evidence or opinion to the contrary.

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Post by placardloop »

snickerbockers wrote: post #93
m4tthumphrey wrote: post #2

Seems like they lost power? https://x.com/georgiameloniii/status/1933091545248641248

jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best. Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to a…

No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.

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Post by nindalf »

LostMyLogin wrote: post #294
nindalf wrote: post #205

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Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

Economist for me. I don't know of any other sources that can reach the same level.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

roywiggins wrote: post #262
nindalf wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Unfortunately for everyone's brains, this turned out to basically not be true with COVID- only real news fans (or people with expertise in the relevant science, but there are way less of those) were remotely aware that offices probably weren't going to be closed for only two weeks[0]. If you followed the news closely you stocked up on toilet paper when there were runs on it in Hong Kong, before there were runs on it…

TP shortages in Hong Kong were rational, based on an expectation of bulk shipping issues. Stocking up in North America based on shortages in Hong Kong was idiotic. If there are shortages of TP in Hong Kong that means there would be a surplus of TP in North America, since North America is where the pulp for most TP is made.

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Post by larrled »

jjude wrote: post #303
ChrisGreenHeur wrote: post #187

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It's also possible to just not read news altogether.

If you don't read news, you are uninformed. If you read news, you are misinformed

I”m reformed. I reread hn.

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Post by toast0 »

garciasn wrote: post #238
drcongo wrote: post #236

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Why? I went news cold turkey about 6 years ago and I'm very happy with that decision.

Why? Because I personally believe those who are not regularly informed are exacerbating the problem in why the electorate makes the decisions it does.

Even if news reading informs an electorate, there's no need to be informed constantly when I only have limited opportunities to vote.

When an election happens, I can do a search of news on the candidates, and for discussions of the other issues put to the voters. In the meantime, by avoiding news, I can save a lot of distress about news that I can't change and doesn't have an immediate effect on me. (Nobody in this thread, including me, is great at avoiding news, me included... really important events tend to bubble up anyway, and all of us clicked into a discussion of an event that's probably not personally relevant)

It'd be different if a cat delivered tomorrow's paper to my door; I might not like it, but I'd have a duty to read that paper and try to make right what once went wrong.

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Post by treetalker »

Litost wrote: post #267
jen729w wrote: post #116

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Just read The Economist. Only comes out weekly!

Similarly The Guardian has a weekly publication - https://support.theguardian.com/uk/subscribe/weekly Unfortunately it doesn't appear to have a digital option?

I can access a digital Guardian Weekly through my public library's online magazines (Hoopla or Libby or some such).
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