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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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> I'm just reciting what's been shown in videos Of unknown provenance, with unknown visual artefacts, et cetera . Even if completely legit, with context and thus chain of causation obscured to the point that discerning ultimate and proximate causes is impossible.

I wish every news was held to this standard.

The industry would be substantially smaller. This runs counter to the interested of every existing industry participant.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Pro tip from a lifelong life enthusiast: if its breaking news, wait one week - first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive. Flick through last weeks newspaper if you need reassurance.

Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

"The Week" is a great magazine for this purpose.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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You ain’t walking away from a fully fueled aircraft crashing unfortunately…

Isn't it possible to eject the fuel / fuel tank if crash is imminent?

The plane crashed shortly after takeoff in a populated area. Dropping 100 tons of fuel or tanks on buildings is not good.

Large jets can usually dump fuel but this is something that takes time. It's sometimes used in less urgent situations where the plane can still fly safely, like a landing gear malfunction or single engine failure.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.

Yeah, I think I might wait for the MentourPilot take on this one. I can't see any benefit in speculating. Horrifying that it came down in a residential area with almost all its fuel still on board though. The aftermath is beyond belief.

blancolirio on YT gives more timely but objective (i.e., tries to stick to the latest facts) takes on aviation incidents. There will be a fair bit of speculation still...

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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The account is run from India.

That raises even more questions.

To be fair, you kinda gotta be on the outside of something to make good humor about it.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Yeah, I think I might wait for the MentourPilot take on this one. I can't see any benefit in speculating. Horrifying that it came down in a residential area with almost all its fuel still on board though. The aftermath is beyond belief.

I know it's not his fault, hate the player not the game, but he will make what off this crash (and his analysis ofc)? $10k? I remember long ago he said he would not report on crashes but that's what people want so no blame..

What do you think the big media outlets make on crashes? And they suck putting all kinds of unwarranted speculation and bullshit on the airwaves.

Media isn't free, especially well produced media that's taken it's time to research.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Why? I went news cold turkey about 6 years ago and I'm very happy with that decision.

Why? Because I personally believe those who are not regularly informed are exacerbating the problem in why the electorate makes the decisions it does.

You could spend the time you'd have spent reading the news instead reading actual books on history, poli sci and political philosophy, ethics, economics, et c., and then figure out who the right person to vote for is and what the right votes on various issues are in like 30 minutes of search-n-skim per election.

This pattern would result in a far better-informed voter than one who diligently follows the news all the time but doesn't read many books. The amount of news you need to read to make informed decisions at the ballot box is usually tiny, if you have the background to understand the news—and if you don't, consuming more news won't help much with that. Meanwhile, it takes a ton of close book-reading before you start to see diminishing returns on that front.

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