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It's also possible to just not read news altogether.
Best decision I’ve ever made. It’s honestly so exhausting reading news regularly.
Amen.
Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
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You ain’t walking away from a fully fueled aircraft crashing unfortunately…
Crazier things have happened. It would not be shocking if a couple of people survived.
Indeed. There were survivors from that horrific Korean flight that crashed into the concrete wall.
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#203From the videos online, it looks like the plane stalled.
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Yeah, I think I might wait for the MentourPilot take on this one. I can't see any benefit in speculating. Horrifying that it came down in a residential area with almost all its fuel still on board though. The aftermath is beyond belief.
I know it's not his fault, hate the player not the game, but he will make what off this crash (and his analysis ofc)? $10k? I remember long ago he said he would not report on crashes but that's what people want so no blame..
I hope he makes $20k. Or more. I enjoy his content and the insight he brings.
Also many people make money from the tragedy of others. Morticians, coffin builders, clean up crews, construction workers, concrete companies…I could probably come up with 100 more examples.
Just because their work is from the result of something tragic doesn’t mean it is any less important.
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#205Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.
Pro tip from a lifelong life enthusiast: if its breaking news, wait one week - first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive. Flick through last weeks newspaper if you need reassurance.
Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff.
If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#206There is a person on X who says he has left the plane before takeoff and has uploaded videos of non-functional entertainment panels: https://x.com/akku92/status/1933114664923148455
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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#207Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.
As I've learned from years of reading Hacker News, people who program computers are experts in _everything_!
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
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Dual engine failure with a stall right at the end as it's going in. Guessing it's either a foreign object ingested into both engines, probably a bird strike, or fuel starvation.
Here's a Reddit video: https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shant... And here's a YouTube video showing a Ram Air Turbine (RAT) being deployed on a 787 for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s
I don't see the RAT deployed on the video on Reddit. Can you tell the timestamp to zoom in? I'm super curious.
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#209Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.
There's footage after takeoff of it descending with the air ram deployed, no engine power, gears down, and flaps up. TBD on the cause, but loss of engines for some reason seems to be the case. I do agree that a lot of info comes out first week that isn't all right. I'm just reciting what's been shown in videos.
Do you have a link to that footage? I've seen speculation on this from very blurry video but nothing like proof.
On the professional pilot forums the consensus guess is inadvertent flap retraction, instead of gear retraction, leading to inability to climb.
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You ain’t walking away from a fully fueled aircraft crashing unfortunately…
Isn't it possible to eject the fuel / fuel tank if crash is imminent?
That takes at least 10 minutes, and more like 30+ on a large plane like the B787.
Source: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1456931