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Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by cmiles74 »

marviel wrote: post #25
dedicate wrote: post #19

Okay, the AI stuff is cool, but that "Containerization framework" mention is kinda huge, right? I mean, native Linux container support on Mac could be a game-changer for my whole workflow, maybe even making Docker less of a headache.

yeah -- I saw it's built on "open source foundations", do you know what project this is?

Being able to drop Docker Desktop would be great. We're using Podman on MacOS now in a couple places, it's pretty good but it is another tool. Having the same tool across MacOS and Linux would be nice.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by kmeisthax »

chakintosh wrote: post #46

Some 15 years ago, A friend of mine said to me "mark my words, Apple will eventually merge OSX with iOS on the iPad". And with every passing keynote since then, it seemed Apple's been inching towards that prophecy, and today, the iPad has become practically a MacBook Air with a touch screen. Unless you were a video editor, programmer who needs resources to compile or a 3D artist, I don't see how you'd need anything o…

Nothing Apple can do to iPadOS is going to fix the fundamental problem that:

1. iPadOS has a lot of software either built for the "three share sheets to the wind" era of iPadOS, or lazily upscaled from an iPhone app, and

2. iPadOS does not allow users to tamper with the OS or third-party software, so you can't fix any of this broken mess.

Video editing and 3D would be possible on iPadOS, but for #1. Programming is genuinely impossible because of #2. All the APIs that let Swift Playgrounds do on-device development are private APIs and entitlements that third-parties are unlikely to ever get a provisioning profile for. Same for emulation and virtualization. Apple begrudgingly allows it, but we're never going to get JIT or hypervisor support[0] that would make those things not immediately chew through your battery.

[0] To be clear, M1 iPads supported hypervisor; if you were jailbroken on iPadOS 14.5 and copied some files over from macOS you could even get full-fat UTM to work. It's just a software lockout.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by browningstreet »

chakintosh wrote: post #46

Some 15 years ago, A friend of mine said to me "mark my words, Apple will eventually merge OSX with iOS on the iPad". And with every passing keynote since then, it seemed Apple's been inching towards that prophecy, and today, the iPad has become practically a MacBook Air with a touch screen. Unless you were a video editor, programmer who needs resources to compile or a 3D artist, I don't see how you'd need anything o…

Then why break it off as iPadOS?

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by bandoti »

Not sure about that Liquid Glass idea.

Ultimately UI widgets are rooted in reality (switches, knobs, doohickeys) and liquid glass is Salvador-Dali-Esque.

Imagine driving a car and the gear shifter was made of liquid glass… people would hit more grannies than a self-driving Tesla.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by shellac »

marviel wrote: post #25
dedicate wrote: post #19

Okay, the AI stuff is cool, but that "Containerization framework" mention is kinda huge, right? I mean, native Linux container support on Mac could be a game-changer for my whole workflow, maybe even making Docker less of a headache.

yeah -- I saw it's built on "open source foundations", do you know what project this is?

If I had to guess, colima? But there are a number of open source projects using Apple's virtualisation technologies to run a linux VM to host docker-type containers.

Once you have an engine podman might be the best choice to manage containers, or docker.

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Post by wmf »

dedicate wrote: post #19

Okay, the AI stuff is cool, but that "Containerization framework" mention is kinda huge, right? I mean, native Linux container support on Mac could be a game-changer for my whole workflow, maybe even making Docker less of a headache.

They Sherlocked OrbStack.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by azinman2 »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #62
jw1224 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that’s the one reason, have you considered just… not using the AI features?

I find it offensive to have any generative AI code on my computer.

So, then don’t do that? It’s not like it’s automatically generating code without you asking.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by summarity »

crooked-v wrote: post #65
codethief wrote: post #42

> New Design with Liquid Glass Looks like software UI design – just like fashion, film, architecture and many other fields I'm sure – has now officially entered the "nothing new under the sun" / "let's recycle ideas from xx years ago" stage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_%28user_interface%29 To be clear, this is just an observation, not a judgment of that change or the quality of the design by itself. I was gett…

I kind of hate it. Every use of it in the videos shown so far has moments where it's so transparent as to have borderline unreadable contrast.

The last example in the first carousel is the worst, the bottom glass elements have complete unreadable text

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by losvedir »

chakintosh wrote: post #46

Some 15 years ago, A friend of mine said to me "mark my words, Apple will eventually merge OSX with iOS on the iPad". And with every passing keynote since then, it seemed Apple's been inching towards that prophecy, and today, the iPad has become practically a MacBook Air with a touch screen. Unless you were a video editor, programmer who needs resources to compile or a 3D artist, I don't see how you'd need anything o…

I don't use an iPad much, but it's been interesting to watch from afar how it's been changing over these years.

They could have gone the direction of just running MacOS on it, but clearly they don't want to. I have a feeling that the only reason MacOS is the way it is, is because of history. If they were building a laptop from scratch, they would want it more in their walled garden.

I'm curious to see what a "power user" desktop with windowing and files, and all that stuff that iPad is starting to get, ultimately looks like down this alternative evolutionary branch.

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