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Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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post #19

Interesting that YC is jumping on this tax code thing, but the shitty tax situation for employees trying to hold onto the equity they've earned is just ignored. The number one problem for startup employees is that the AMT tax makes it impossible to exercise options in a company that is doing well. YC is showing us that they will fight for changes to the tax code when it benefits their bottom line directly, but are si…

It's possible to care about more than one thing. Who doesn't?

Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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What is a software dev expense and why should it be tax deductible?

> What is a software dev expense

You might be more familiar with the term "salary and benefits".

> why should it be tax deductible?

Business expenses are tax deductible.

Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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I’m all for reverting that part of the tax code, but only on the condition that it’s inapplicable to H-1B visa or foreign worker salaries/payments, provided that employer pays local taxes in those countries for those roles. Keep good paying jobs in the USA. If we need immigrant labor, give them Green Cards instead of precarity.

Exactly this. If the aim is to bring back physical manufacturing, bring back software "manufacturing" as well.

Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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post #3

Thanks for working on this guys. The current tax code is fairly crazy: you could spend a few million in salaries, sell 200k of software in a year and possibly owe taxes on that. Even if the company would otherwise be shutting down. The traditional capital asset treatment applied to software leaves a lot to be desired. Some software is a capital asset, but much just isn’t. Or at least should be considered to depreciat…

I would be surprised if nearly all software companies wouldn't consider their code to be a valuable capital asset. For example, do you think your company would be okay with releasing commits/snapshots of their source code and design docs into the public domain once they hit 5 years old? Or do they currently depreciate too quickly?

Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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post #19

Interesting that YC is jumping on this tax code thing, but the shitty tax situation for employees trying to hold onto the equity they've earned is just ignored. The number one problem for startup employees is that the AMT tax makes it impossible to exercise options in a company that is doing well. YC is showing us that they will fight for changes to the tax code when it benefits their bottom line directly, but are si…

It's much worse than that. The whole US tax system is severely regressive, with labor paying up to 50% incremental rate if your income is low enough, and return on capital paying as little as zero if you have enough of it.

Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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post #16

The top of the form says "[Letter text -- Please sign by June 4!]" -- is it still helpful to sign?

Oh yes it's still helpful - that date must be from an earlier version of the letter. We'll fix it!

(And thanks— I can't believe I missed that!)

Re: Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)

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post #24

Other than it’s nice not to have your profession taxed, what is the argument that software development shouldn’t be taxed as opposed to all sorts of other white collar work?

Almost all work is tax deductible. This isn't just for software developers and employees still pay taxes. The issue is software development is being classified as research which is one of the few areas where salaries aren't directly deductible but instead need to be deducted in pieces over five years.

> Almost all work is tax deductible

What really? How does this work.

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