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1/3rd and fading.
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77,302,580 votes for Trump. 245M are eligible to vote.
Approval has gone down post-election. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-appro...
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Two things: - the US has a history dealing very harshly with whoever goes (or is perceived to be) against the federal government - I do not understand why would anyone be pro illegals and go against their country to support them The world is going bonkers.
The people who are pro illegals either 1) face zero consequences for not enforcing the border laws, 2) illegals themselves, or 3) people who are anti-anything-Trump/Republican. America isn't a town square that the world is somehow entitled to inhabit. It's a country with borders and laws.
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I think a lot of people believe that there ought to be a statute of limitations on immigration; if you've been peacefully living and working in the country for many years, what's the actual public purpose of deporting someone? Including breaking up a family?
The purpose of deporting them is the same as punishing any other crime: to disincentivize committing it. Immigration is arguably even more important to enforce in this manner because of the clear-cut legal alternative.
We're talking about an immigration policy that is now rounding people up at their legal immigration appointments. This is not about maintaining a legal alternative, and to argue that it is feels disingenuous.
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The US person with a degree and citizenship isn’t competing for jobs with the undocumented. They’re going after vastly different kinds of work.
The naturalized half, most of who don't have degrees and often tell me tales of their coworkers getting deported, are fiercely pro Trump's immigration policies.
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"critical of people for defending the city from ICE stormtroopers. I see people justifying paper-checking, something I'm sure we roundly mocked the Soviets for doing - I thought gestapo agents checking the papers of people in the streets was commie shit?" Truly curious, what methods are you suggesting we use to keep our immigrant population tracked and controlled? If the immigrants aren't leaving after being asked ni…
> what methods are you suggesting we use to keep our immigrant population tracked and controlled? You can't track and control only immigrants. Any such system would include tracking and controls of citizens, simply in order to sort them into the "not immigrant" category. Hence all the "papers please". (Not to mention the false positive problem!)
I don't like either of those alternatives, but those seem to be the only options that are being advocated at the moment. Is there a better option?
And if not, are you really content to advocate for one of those two options? (Either of those two options? Because personally, no, I am not willing to advocate for either one.)
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Well the point of wearing a mask is mostly to protect vulnerable people, and to slow the spread of a disease. These protests are also about protecting vulnerable people. And, I would argue, to slow the spread of a disease.
Lest we all forget, the messaging coming out the the White House at the beginning was "masks are ineffective"
If I recall correctly, at the onset of the covid pandemic the general guidance was to not rush to buy masks with the goal to prevent a supply crunch that would impact first-line responders.
This guidance was quickly switched to a global recommendation to wear masks so to prevent and slow down how the disease was spreading, so that healthcare services could respond to the demand.
This all happened in the first few weeks of the global pandemic.
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Two things: - the US has a history dealing very harshly with whoever goes (or is perceived to be) against the federal government - I do not understand why would anyone be pro illegals and go against their country to support them The world is going bonkers.
The people who are pro illegals either 1) face zero consequences for not enforcing the border laws, 2) illegals themselves, or 3) people who are anti-anything-Trump/Republican. America isn't a town square that the world is somehow entitled to inhabit. It's a country with borders and laws.
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Two things: - the US has a history dealing very harshly with whoever goes (or is perceived to be) against the federal government - I do not understand why would anyone be pro illegals and go against their country to support them The world is going bonkers.
The people who are pro illegals either 1) face zero consequences for not enforcing the border laws, 2) illegals themselves, or 3) people who are anti-anything-Trump/Republican. America isn't a town square that the world is somehow entitled to inhabit. It's a country with borders and laws.
As recently as 30 years ago the pragmatic class understood this. I’m not sure where reality will take us now.
>What’s more, much of the population, “probably a statistical majority, [just] wanted to get on with their own lives without worrying about declaring their allegiance to one side or the other,” Still the same today.
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Surprise, you’re already tracked in a dozen harmless ways that enable modern life: drivers license, Social Security number, birth certificate, etc; even before you get into quasi-public records like credit reporting, bank accounts, and insurance. Acting like showing ID to an immigration official is some unprecedented intrusion is absurd. Fly domestically, shop at Costco, or buy a 6 pack of beer and you’ll end up show…
I can not shop at Costco, not buy beer, and not fly. I can't not interact with law enforcement, which is why we have things like the Fourth Amendment to protect us in those non-consensual scenarios.