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Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Post by alex43578 »

jeffbee wrote: post #10
ericmay wrote: post #9

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When Americans were “resisting authority” by not wearing masks and keeping their businesses opened despite lockdown orders did you feel the same pride in anti-authority behavior then? One person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist. Always has been and always will be that way. The winning side when there is one usually gets to write the history of who was what. Do you still feel pride in American anti-auth…

Anybody get tear-gassed for not wearing a mask?

Equating not wearing a mask with assaulting federal agents, damaging federal property, or being part of an unlawful assembly doing the former is quite a stretch.

Be realistic about why the groups in LA are getting tear-gassed or pepperball’d.

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Post by roenxi »

jeffbee wrote: post #10
ericmay wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Americans were “resisting authority” by not wearing masks and keeping their businesses opened despite lockdown orders did you feel the same pride in anti-authority behavior then? One person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist. Always has been and always will be that way. The winning side when there is one usually gets to write the history of who was what. Do you still feel pride in American anti-auth…

Anybody get tear-gassed for not wearing a mask?

Yes. That is part of why the various COVID measures proved quite unpopular. In Australia for example we saw the standard crowd-control treatments [0] being used to break up protests of people who objected to the sudden spike in authoritarianism. There was also the internationally eyebrow-raising financial abuse that the Canadians were doling out that was a new low for anti-protest tactics and political repression.

[0] https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/victor...

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Post by alecst »

ericmay wrote: post #9
komali2 wrote: post #2

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When Americans were “resisting authority” by not wearing masks and keeping their businesses opened despite lockdown orders did you feel the same pride in anti-authority behavior then? One person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist. Always has been and always will be that way. The winning side when there is one usually gets to write the history of who was what. Do you still feel pride in American anti-auth…

Well the point of wearing a mask is mostly to protect vulnerable people, and to slow the spread of a disease. These protests are also about protecting vulnerable people. And, I would argue, to slow the spread of a disease.

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Post by bix6 »

ericmay wrote: post #9
komali2 wrote: post #2

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When Americans were “resisting authority” by not wearing masks and keeping their businesses opened despite lockdown orders did you feel the same pride in anti-authority behavior then? One person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist. Always has been and always will be that way. The winning side when there is one usually gets to write the history of who was what. Do you still feel pride in American anti-auth…

They tear gassed patrons in a restaurant last week… not the same.

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Post by ap99 »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #20
komali2 wrote: post #2

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Two things: - the US has a history dealing very harshly with whoever goes (or is perceived to be) against the federal government - I do not understand why would anyone be pro illegals and go against their country to support them The world is going bonkers.

The people who are pro illegals either 1) face zero consequences for not enforcing the border laws, 2) illegals themselves, or 3) people who are anti-anything-Trump/Republican.

America isn't a town square that the world is somehow entitled to inhabit. It's a country with borders and laws.

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Post by dontlaugh »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #23
dontlaugh wrote: post #11

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Go ahead. In the UK there’s regular Tories (Conservative Party), red Tories (Labour Party under Blair or Starmer), tartan Tories (SNP), etc. In the US it seems like you only have red and blue Tories.

Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Is there? They seem only distinguishable aesthetically to me.

They’re much closer to each other than UK’s Tories and Labour, for sure.

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Post by ty6853 »

pjc50 wrote: post #25
ap99 wrote: post #12

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I think a lot of people believe that there ought to be a statute of limitations on immigration; if you've been peacefully living and working in the country for many years, what's the actual public purpose of deporting someone? Including breaking up a family?

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