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Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Is there? They seem only distinguishable aesthetically to me. They’re much closer to each other than UK’s Tories and Labour, for sure.

> They seem only distinguishable aesthetically to me.

This is likely to depend heavily on what positions you care strongly about.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Yeah, no. The Overton window is so incredibly small in America that normal, run of the mill political positions - either left or right - in the rest of the world are deemed extremist and radical in America. Your Corporate media is the problem.

Things have been far more polarised since the rise of social media. You can blame fox news and cnn or whatever all you want, but given how far the US is from the days of Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Kennedy etc I don't see how you can simply blame "corporate media".

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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You never see the employers of "illegal" labour getting teargassed and dragged away to foreign prisons without trial, do you?

The employers cast votes, illegals do not, seems like an easy calculus. Arrest the illegals to win the immigrant vote.

Rationally someone on HN is not going to want to understand this because it is not in their interest to understand it, because they benefit from illegal immigrants more than they don't.

And that's why they simply flagged my very valid point, no matter that it is well into the + and follows HN rules.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Is there? They seem only distinguishable aesthetically to me. They’re much closer to each other than UK’s Tories and Labour, for sure.

> They seem only distinguishable aesthetically to me. This is likely to depend heavily on what positions you care strongly about.

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Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no. The Overton window is so incredibly small in America that normal, run of the mill political positions - either left or right - in the rest of the world are deemed extremist and radical in America. Your Corporate media is the problem.

Things have been far more polarised since the rise of social media. You can blame fox news and cnn or whatever all you want, but given how far the US is from the days of Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Kennedy etc I don't see how you can simply blame "corporate media".

Social media is the new corporate media.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Is there? They seem only distinguishable aesthetically to me. They’re much closer to each other than UK’s Tories and Labour, for sure.

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Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Go ahead. In the UK there’s regular Tories (Conservative Party), red Tories (Labour Party under Blair or Starmer), tartan Tories (SNP), etc. In the US it seems like you only have red and blue Tories.

Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

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