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Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Go ahead. In the UK there’s regular Tories (Conservative Party), red Tories (Labour Party under Blair or Starmer), tartan Tories (SNP), etc. In the US it seems like you only have red and blue Tories.

Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Not as much as you'd think. It's remarkable how similar their tactics and rhetoric are.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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I think a lot of people believe that there ought to be a statute of limitations on immigration; if you've been peacefully living and working in the country for many years, what's the actual public purpose of deporting someone? Including breaking up a family?

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You never see the employers of "illegal" labour getting teargassed and dragged away to foreign prisons without trial, do you?

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Go ahead. In the UK there’s regular Tories (Conservative Party), red Tories (Labour Party under Blair or Starmer), tartan Tories (SNP), etc. In the US it seems like you only have red and blue Tories.

Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Yeah, no. The Overton window is so incredibly small in America that normal, run of the mill political positions - either left or right - in the rest of the world are deemed extremist and radical in America.

Your Corporate media is the problem.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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"critical of people for defending the city from ICE stormtroopers. I see people justifying paper-checking, something I'm sure we roundly mocked the Soviets for doing - I thought gestapo agents checking the papers of people in the streets was commie shit?" Truly curious, what methods are you suggesting we use to keep our immigrant population tracked and controlled? If the immigrants aren't leaving after being asked ni…

> what methods are you suggesting we use to keep our immigrant population tracked and controlled? You can't track and control only immigrants. Any such system would include tracking and controls of citizens, simply in order to sort them into the "not immigrant" category. Hence all the "papers please". (Not to mention the false positive problem!)

Surprise, you’re already tracked in a dozen harmless ways that enable modern life: drivers license, Social Security number, birth certificate, etc; even before you get into quasi-public records like credit reporting, bank accounts, and insurance.

Acting like showing ID to an immigration official is some unprecedented intrusion is absurd. Fly domestically, shop at Costco, or buy a 6 pack of beer and you’ll end up showing more “papers” than a typical interaction with Customs/ICE, assuming you’re not illegal.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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When Americans were “resisting authority” by not wearing masks and keeping their businesses opened despite lockdown orders did you feel the same pride in anti-authority behavior then? One person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist. Always has been and always will be that way. The winning side when there is one usually gets to write the history of who was what. Do you still feel pride in American anti-auth…

They tear gassed patrons in a restaurant last week… not the same.

They sent in riot police to clear out peaceful protesters in June 2020 so the president could have a photo-op, it's nothing new. The US population wanted this.

Re: Defiant loyalists paid dearly for choosing wrong side in the American Revolution

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Go ahead. In the UK there’s regular Tories (Conservative Party), red Tories (Labour Party under Blair or Starmer), tartan Tories (SNP), etc. In the US it seems like you only have red and blue Tories.

Actually there's a massive difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US, and that difference matters a lot

Under the lenses of a duopoly, American politics seems like a well oiled machine, oiled by the tears of the constituency, but they are working together. The orange tumor seems to be a new thing that for some reason smells like fundamentalist state.
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