Do these wires apply castle doctrine? That is if you create a big one and then someone believing in their power enters you are free to defend what is inside?
This has nothing to do with secular law.
The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
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Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
He isn't, of course. According to Jewish thought, God is perfect and therefore any loopholes in the rules were put there on purpose. If you have studied the holy texts deeply enough to find the loophole, that makes you more holy, not less. It's like an easter egg for true believers. The true sinners are those who think that they know what God wants better than what He actually passed down as commandments. God knows w…
> any loopholes in the rules were put there on purpose > The true sinners are those who think that they know what God wants better than what He actually passed down as commandments. God knows what He wants and wrote it down exactly like that. So it's just man who decides "this is a loophole and God wants me to use it". Man decides what God really wants. Man who not only looks for ways around God's word but he also cl…
All religions are absurd, don’t think too hard about them - just follow.
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#223Google Maps zoomable map I found: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0... I wonder why it seems to circumvent Hells Kitchen?
I don't think that's a current map, the eruv web site shows much more of the island covered (including much of Hell's Kitchen): http://eruv.nyc/#map
Some number of years ago, I looked at the map on this page and tried to find the eruv on the west side, near 14th St and a few streets below.
My conclusion was the eruv wasn't there (despite the green checkmark on the website), making this whole thing even more fun than people find it here! :)
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#224I'm pretty sure that if there is a god, then the act of deliberately subverting what you believe to be his laws by exploiting what you perceive to be a technicality for your own convenience isn't going to work out in your favor in the end.
The first subversion that occurred was the administrative change that said you can subvert the rules within your home. Then the rabbis proceeded to enlarge the home boundaries.
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#225couldn't they hook up some kind of low voltage or resistance check to confirm continuity. instead of a visual inspection. and This is pretty crazy loop hole.
Would that make it invite a lot from scrutiny from the city and power company? An inert wire, they can look the other way. A live wire is a potential fire hazard and source of EM interference for utilities.
With a fraction of a volt and a fraction of a milliamp on it, how many fires you gonna start? No EM if it's DC. C'mon.
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Is this an honest question? Are there other religions wanting to run wire around the city?
This is a question about the first amendment. Is the government making rules in favor of one religion over, anyone else? Bob, an atheist, is allowed to run arbitrary wires around midtown manhattan, just the same as some other group?
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The word is not “fooled” but ignored. By that metric the question is: How is man fearlessly ignoring an all powerful God?
“They fool no one but themselves.” - God
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#228I'm pretty sure that if there is a god, then the act of deliberately subverting what you believe to be his laws by exploiting what you perceive to be a technicality for your own convenience isn't going to work out in your favor in the end.
Not at all. The Jewish perspective is essentially that Jewish law stems from the creation of an all-knowing God, and therefore any seeming ‘loopholes’ must not only be known to Him but explicitly intended to exist. On this basis, it must be perfectly valid to use them!
"Loophole" is a bad term. "Deliberate misunderstanding" is more accurate.
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#229Why not make a tiny 10cm wire at the north pole to do the entire planet? And bless the oceans for unlimited holy water. Anyone who goes to the beach is baptised.
How do you check if the line is not broken? And when it is broken, what do you do then?
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#230Since people seem to be completely misunderstanding what the point of this is, or why it's even a problem in the first place, let's start with two simple definitions of what's going on: 1. In Jewish law, the definition of "work that is prohibited on the Sabbath" includes "moving objects outside the private domain". 2. The definition of "domain" has three kinds: "public domain" (such as a house), "private domain" (suc…
I'm sorry but I fail to see how what you wrote makes it any different. The wire is nothing more than a hack, like a cheat in a game. The law prohibits work "outside" so let's redefine the meaning of "outside" so we can continue working there.
Aah! Now I see the relevance to HN.