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Has rent ever been 10% of take-home pay of a lower-class laborer anywhere in history? Asking because this goal doesn't seem very achievable, but I could be wrong
it was 2% in the soviet union
Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
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> Still, she added, rents are about 20% higher than pre-pandemic levels, and consumers remain concerned about their financial situation and job security in recent surveys. When people throw around the word shortage what they mean is "availability at a price I'm willing to pay." Same with labor shortages.
That's... the definition of shortage
Re: Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has rent ever been 10% of take-home pay of a lower-class laborer anywhere in history? Asking because this goal doesn't seem very achievable, but I could be wrong
it was 2% in the soviet union
> Demand for housing also remains heavy because Soviet rents, heavily subsidized by the Government, are very low. A modest two‐room apartment will en for 6 to 8 rubles ($8 to $11.30) a month, including some utilities. A four‐room apartment wil rent for 14 to 16 rubles ($18.20 to $22.30). Apartments in more modern buildings cost more because of additional services.
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/11/11/archives/in-soviet-ingenu...
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#14what's a good way to reconcile this with the common narrative that there's a big housing shortage?
> Still, she added, rents are about 20% higher than pre-pandemic levels, and consumers remain concerned about their financial situation and job security in recent surveys. When people throw around the word shortage what they mean is "availability at a price I'm willing to pay." Same with labor shortages.
For the many scores of millions of us, it's "not more than I can possibly pay".
ref: lived thru the 400 applications per day per rental crisis in 2021.
Re: Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
#15what's a good way to reconcile this with the common narrative that there's a big housing shortage?
> Still, she added, rents are about 20% higher than pre-pandemic levels, and consumers remain concerned about their financial situation and job security in recent surveys. When people throw around the word shortage what they mean is "availability at a price I'm willing to pay." Same with labor shortages.
Re: Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
#16what's a good way to reconcile this with the common narrative that there's a big housing shortage?
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Rents are still too damn high. The shortage will be over when rent is less than 10% of take home pay for a lower class laborer in NYC.
Has rent ever been 10% of take-home pay of a lower-class laborer anywhere in history? Asking because this goal doesn't seem very achievable, but I could be wrong
Re: Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Still, she added, rents are about 20% higher than pre-pandemic levels, and consumers remain concerned about their financial situation and job security in recent surveys. When people throw around the word shortage what they mean is "availability at a price I'm willing to pay." Same with labor shortages.
That's... the definition of shortage
Re: Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
#19what's a good way to reconcile this with the common narrative that there's a big housing shortage?
Re: Rents fall in most U.S. metros since 2023, demand struggles to match supply
#20what's a good way to reconcile this with the common narrative that there's a big housing shortage?
> Still, she added, rents are about 20% higher than pre-pandemic levels, and consumers remain concerned about their financial situation and job security in recent surveys. When people throw around the word shortage what they mean is "availability at a price I'm willing to pay." Same with labor shortages.
So we will just have to see if prices continue to drop.