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Don't just send me a random dump wiki dump. Give me actual racist things he said in 2016.

It's not racist to push baseless claims the opposition who is black was born in Africa and not qualified to run for office ? How else would you define racism if not across xenophobic lines by the color of ones skin ?

Obama was not his opposition, and that was not his campaign.

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Don't just send me a random dump wiki dump. Give me actual racist things he said in 2016.

I’m sorry that the volume of racist statements he has made means that you have to scroll down. The below link should take you straight there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump#2...

So you can't give me a single racist statement he made.

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There's nothing invalid about meritocracy, but that's not what we have. We have some other kind of "ocracy": government by the lucky. I lack the Greek literacy to name the phenomenon correctly but that's what it would translate to in English. Neither Trump nor Musk has any business running anything more impactful than a used car lot or a corner Starbucks franchise, but their competition was permanently out to lunch i…

Meritocracy is like perfect communism, in that it's never been tried (and never will).

I had a history prof who said "Communism is for the angels. But the angels don't need it."

That being said, I don't fully agree with grandparent's statement that ...

> We have some other kind of "ocracy": government by the lucky.

As much as it pains me to say it, it wasn't just "luck."

Musk is reasonably bright and Trump is ... well ... he's not as dumb as many portray him.

Instead they're both horribly broken in other ways.

Trump seems devoid of empathy and that metaphorical vacuum is filled with malevolence. He also appears to have very little self-control.

I can't tell you what is broken with Musk. Maybe the same stuff as w/ Trump, but to a slightly lesser degree.

Luck certainly played a part in their respective successes, but so did intelligence and ruthlessness.

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On the positive side, Trump is so unstable that he'll trash your business one day and then the next day he'll reverse course. So, "if people kiss your ass enough, they get contract" does not seem to be a long-term viable strategy. (Exhibit A: Musk.) I'm 90% sure it will lead to America's ruin, but it might not quite be the same path that led the USSR to ruin. Hey, at least it looks more entertaining! :/

America's ruin will be spending itself into bankruptcy.

Trump and Republicans had a great hand in this (Afghanistan and Iraq invasions, Bush tax cuts, Trump tax cuts, PPP helicopter money for the rich), and are looking to double down with their current disaster of a bill. Hope you're opposing that.

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Hey it’s ok to be confused. This week we stop hating musk (but trump is still a baddie).

You’re allowed to make comments like this where you express joy at watching his suffering: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44196058. but only for another week.

In 20 days musk will be a goodie and then you mustn’t at all say anything negative at all about him. He’s a goodie. Again, trump is a baddie (baddie status began in 2016 fyi, before that point he was a goodie).

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Thats your opinion, Obama could have been white, and he still would have been voted for by 99.9% of those who voted for him. Young Kennedy-like candidates are rare (eg Bill Clinton and Barack Obama) but are incredibly electable when they show up. Towards the end of his presidency, most of us forgot he was even black. Just those white southerners and a certain old guy in New York who were fixated on his race from the…

So you are opposed to fixating on people's race and yet there you are singling out white southerners. The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.

It's important not to start wars first. Good arguments would also help.

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July 4th we commemorate getting rid of one mad king overseas and replacing him with.. oh wait.

You should always self-host your foreign mad king. The latency to England is just too high.

We actually had one back in the 1800's: https://www.thoughtco.com/biography-of-joshua-norton-emperor...

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Thats your opinion, Obama could have been white, and he still would have been voted for by 99.9% of those who voted for him. Young Kennedy-like candidates are rare (eg Bill Clinton and Barack Obama) but are incredibly electable when they show up. Towards the end of his presidency, most of us forgot he was even black. Just those white southerners and a certain old guy in New York who were fixated on his race from the…

So you are opposed to fixating on people's race and yet there you are singling out white southerners. The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.

They self-selected. Loudly.

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Thats your opinion, Obama could have been white, and he still would have been voted for by 99.9% of those who voted for him. Young Kennedy-like candidates are rare (eg Bill Clinton and Barack Obama) but are incredibly electable when they show up. Towards the end of his presidency, most of us forgot he was even black. Just those white southerners and a certain old guy in New York who were fixated on his race from the…

So you are opposed to fixating on people's race and yet there you are singling out white southerners. The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.

Most people forgot Obama was black except them, they are also the ones constantly accusing Obama of being racially divisive, they should just own what they say. This is kind of like Trump calling people names but then being greatly offended when someone calls him a name, right?
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