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You either believe everything will be over or you're a heretic. Not really any flavours to be had.
Sure there are, because your flavor is right and the others are wrong.
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It is not that easy. If we look at historical context we can see that for example in judaism they have this midrash:
"The Holy One said, open for me a door as big as a needle's eye and I will open for you a door through which may enter tents and camels."
Sounds familiar? The meaning of that saying in jewish context is that we cant really understand Gods abilities.
Could the christian saying mean something else? Sure. We dont even know if jesus even said that exact phrase.
My point is more that there are often more than one interpretation of vague sayings from 2000 years that been through an oral tradition, translations and copying.
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What's missed is that the camel/needle thing is a joke. The "eye of the needle" was a (very small) gate into Jerusalem. To get a camel through that gate, it has to lower its head and crawl on its knees. So Jesus was calling rich people camels; camels can be very arrogant beasts so it fits.
none of this is at all true, none of it is supported by the historical record, none of it is supported by the rest of jesus's teachings (which explicitly and repeatedly state that the rich are not welcome in heaven), there never was an "eye of the needle" gate, no one even posited the existence of such a gate until the 9th century CE and the other gospels use different phrasing of "a camel passing through the eye of a needle" that indicate that "the eye of a needle" isn't a proper noun referring to a singular entity with a commonly-known name.
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Keep in mind true believers often learn to live with a massive cognitive dissonance This is quite true. Taking away just the moral teachings is not true belief. Revelations is serious business stuff, the apostles watched Christ ascend from Mount Olive, it’s extremely trippy things. True believers are literally believing in wild shit. In fact, if you are true believer, you almost need to keep it hidden because it’s go…
If you think quantum = supernatural you just didn't understand the topic.
It ought to be telling that all the woo woo comes from people who don't know anything.
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#116Things are supposed to get real bad before it happens. World War 2 should have been it really, but I guess even that wasn’t bad enough. The gospel has also not been preached to every nation, so there are billions that are unaware of it (this is a prerequisite).
christianity has spread all over the world. it is being taught in every nation. all muslims know about jesus because mohammad too talks about him. buddhists and hindus have christian and muslim neighbors. so where are those unaware billions?
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep in mind true believers often learn to live with a massive cognitive dissonance This is quite true. Taking away just the moral teachings is not true belief. Revelations is serious business stuff, the apostles watched Christ ascend from Mount Olive, it’s extremely trippy things. True believers are literally believing in wild shit. In fact, if you are true believer, you almost need to keep it hidden because it’s go…
There’s “science doesn’t adequately explain the origins of the universe,” and then there’s “this particular middle eastern tribe had the right answers thousands of years ago.” I can see the former but the latter makes no sense.
Unless God actually exists and revealed himself to them. Obviously, you are free to not believe that, but believing that goes along with believing what you are dismissing.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's missed is that the camel/needle thing is a joke. The "eye of the needle" was a (very small) gate into Jerusalem. To get a camel through that gate, it has to lower its head and crawl on its knees. So Jesus was calling rich people camels; camels can be very arrogant beasts so it fits.
I, too, used to be a “preachermon”. I never found evidence that this argument was anything but apocryphal. It would make a better argument to find a text describing how Jesus referred to a rich person (real or parable) and said, “this rich person gets it, be like him”. Direct, and without the mental backflips.
it is, however, very easy to find other ways jesus has phrased the idea "the rich don't get into heaven". In matthew he says the last shall be first and the first shall be last, in acts he has his disciples sell all of their stuff and pool the money, and in several other places he tells the faithful to give all of their stuff away.
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#120I take a similar approach to investing on Masterworks (they sell shares of paintings). Most investors seem to buy the upfront offering, which is always $20/share, regardless of the painting. They don't seem to realize that MW holds onto the paintings for years, so it can be hard to cash out. Many will sell at a loss just to get their cash our before the painting is sold, so I can buy their shares very cheap.