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The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by santoshalper »

foxygen wrote: post #68
ivape wrote: post #47

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Keep in mind true believers often learn to live with a massive cognitive dissonance This is quite true. Taking away just the moral teachings is not true belief. Revelations is serious business stuff, the apostles watched Christ ascend from Mount Olive, it’s extremely trippy things. True believers are literally believing in wild shit. In fact, if you are true believer, you almost need to keep it hidden because it’s go…

What is so special about reality?

Whenever people say things like this "the universe is too weird not to have been created", I always ask "Weird compared to what? To other realities you have witnessed?"

The safest assumption to make, if you absolutely have to make an assumption at all, is that this reality is pretty average. With no knowledge whatsoever, it's certainly safer than betting it is somehow exotic.

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ivape wrote: post #47
paulryanrogers wrote: post #34

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Keep in mind true believers often learn to live with a massive cognitive dissonance This is quite true. Taking away just the moral teachings is not true belief. Revelations is serious business stuff, the apostles watched Christ ascend from Mount Olive, it’s extremely trippy things. True believers are literally believing in wild shit. In fact, if you are true believer, you almost need to keep it hidden because it’s go…

The popular stories/proverbs aren't too unbelievable, but Ezekiel 10 discusses the four wheels besides the cherubim. These wheels are celestial beings that see all. Diablo (the video game) draws from this. This is not a comment on your mental status, but that some of the stuff in the Christian Bible are further out there than magic tricks by Jesus that Penn and Teller could replicate.

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blendergeek wrote: post #21

This article fails to address that most true believers would not see any point to betting on the yes. If Christ returns this year, the world is done and there is no upside to having bet that he would. Temporal things (like prediction markets) will cease to be interesting when Christ returns. Given that, I highly doubt that the people betting yes actually believe that Christ will return this year.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

preachermon wrote: post #54
jordanb wrote: post #7

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What's missed is that the camel/needle thing is a joke. The "eye of the needle" was a (very small) gate into Jerusalem. To get a camel through that gate, it has to lower its head and crawl on its knees. So Jesus was calling rich people camels; camels can be very arrogant beasts so it fits.

Dan McClellan, a biblical scholar (a practising Mormon, but not an apologist) discusses that here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzR39RVQKs

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Post by em-bee »

ivape wrote: post #47
paulryanrogers wrote: post #34

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Keep in mind true believers often learn to live with a massive cognitive dissonance This is quite true. Taking away just the moral teachings is not true belief. Revelations is serious business stuff, the apostles watched Christ ascend from Mount Olive, it’s extremely trippy things. True believers are literally believing in wild shit. In fact, if you are true believer, you almost need to keep it hidden because it’s go…

depends how you define a true believer. i am not christian, but i would claim that the people you describe aren't true believers because they haven't really understood the bible.

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lokar wrote: post #56
paxys wrote: post #23

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They have more basic issues: Just one-third of U.S. Catholics agree with their church that Eucharist is body, blood of Christ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/08/05/transubst...

I think the Carholic church has decided it's dangerous to accept parts of the Bible as metaphor, so they must force a literal interpretation on everything - even to the point of absurdity. Jesus said it's his body and blood so it must be. Because you know, everyone making a symbolic gesture always says that's what they're doing...
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