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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Seeing that telegram is clear text by default, you should consider alternatives that offer end to end encryption by default.

It's not clear text by default, it's just not end-to-end encrypted. Messages are still encrypted between client and server. I agree about considering alternatives though.

Is the server -> FSB connection encrypted?

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

Same as OpenAI paying Apple to integrate ChatGPT with Siri/iPhone. Apple has the users. As does Telegram. Of course, non-paying users are a loss-leader, but some portion of them will convert to premium users. They’re paying for distribution. And maybe mindshare.

OpenAI is not paying Apple though. Only money exchange that happens is the cut Apple takes of the subscriptions.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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No matter how good your offering is, you always need marketing if you are competing against an established behemoth in the space like OpenAI. Even Google has been unable to make much of a dent in OpenAI's daily active users despite having superior distribution and (recently) comparable quality. Grok 3 is legitimately one of the best general purpose models out there. People don't know about it because ChatGPT is "good…

$300m could buy you a hell of a lot of marketing, no? Then people could choose to use your product rather than be forced to. We’re side stepping the elephant in the room: X/xAI/Musk’s brand is toxic and forcing the product onto users is one of few paths available.

>$300m could buy you a hell of a lot of marketing, no?

a quick google search shown Telegram have 1 billion users worldwide.

>X/xAI/Musk’s brand is toxic

Is it?

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Now xAI is fully plugged into the zeitgeist.

Integration into telegram chats seems like a natural extension to the data xAI gets from Twitter.

$40 billion for twitter is a steal in retrospect now that we've entered an era of insatiable appetite for training data.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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No matter how good your offering is, you always need marketing if you are competing against an established behemoth in the space like OpenAI. Even Google has been unable to make much of a dent in OpenAI's daily active users despite having superior distribution and (recently) comparable quality. Grok 3 is legitimately one of the best general purpose models out there. People don't know about it because ChatGPT is "good…

I honestly don't care about the technical capabilities of the tool when I know it's being actively mismanaged. Incidentally, have you got a moment to talk about the white genocide in south africa?

> "Incidentally, have you got a moment to talk about the white genocide in south africa?"

Is this some sort of joke, or are you genuinely wanting to discuss what's happening here in South Africa?

If it's a joke, I think it's in very poor taste at the expense of a persecuted minority. I have seen it, experienced it, and know full well how real it is, no matter how much social-media pushes it one way or the other.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

>Googles AI summaries, which are pinned to the top of results and can't be disabled You CAN disable them. Append -ai to your Google search query. You're welcome. Edit: curious why are people downvoting a helpful workaround?

Huge oversight by Google. Now they're going to have to invent some other way to indicate that you want to show hidden search results and inodes.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

I don't like Grok that much, but there's nothing particularly new or interesting about this deal. Telegram has a big international audience, it makes sense someone would pay to be the default for user adoption reasons. "Feels oh so telling that Google has to pay Apple and not the other way around. If Google search was so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it to be the default search in Safari?"

people go out of their way to install chrome but don't go out of their way to change away from Bing search as much, su that seems correct to me.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

>Googles AI summaries, which are pinned to the top of results and can't be disabled You CAN disable them. Append -ai to your Google search query. You're welcome. Edit: curious why are people downvoting a helpful workaround?

That's not disabling it, that's a funky workaround that happens to work for now.
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