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Exactly. EVs are a band-aid, but the true cure is simply viable alternatives to driving .
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A lot of people need trucks for their work. Hispanics in gardening and construction in particular.
Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
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Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
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I'm 99% sure this is a troll, but I hate to see misinformation go uncorrected. If this isn't a troll, you've been misled by fossil fuel industry propaganda, and I'm sorry. While EVs can be heavier, they often achieve high safety ratings due to their low center of gravity and robust battery protection. Advanced safety features are standard. Studies suggest that EV charging, especially when managed, can help stabilize…
It is not a troll. I was talking about safety for the drivers in the car that collide with the EV. They are less safe with EVs on the road. When we have marginal electricity pricing, and electric cars necessarily being marginal demand, then they will ramp pricing a lot for all users , not just those driving electric cars. This far outweighs the benefit of grid balancing services (which this green revolution has creat…
I think you know this is propaganda. I know that you won't, but anyone else reading this might like to look up the weight of the most popular vehicles sold in the US. You might be surprised that virtually none of the heaviest ones are BEVs.
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#53Brake dust is such nasty stuff, yet we place schools and homes right next to the rivers of pollution that we call highways. I'm hopeful that we will legalize the building of less car-dependent housing, but until then at least EVs will help.
Just adding: On highways, there will be less "breaking" vs. (e.g.) highly frequented intersections in cities.
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#54Another way to say the same thing: Electric cars still pollute, just a bit less than regular cars.
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not a troll. I was talking about safety for the drivers in the car that collide with the EV. They are less safe with EVs on the road. When we have marginal electricity pricing, and electric cars necessarily being marginal demand, then they will ramp pricing a lot for all users , not just those driving electric cars. This far outweighs the benefit of grid balancing services (which this green revolution has creat…
> I was talking about safety for the drivers in the car that collide with the EV. They are less safe with EVs on the road. So is a Model T. But we aren’t all still driving Model Ts, are we? Technology improves, and of course older cars are less safe. There is a weight difference, but it’s no different from that of an SUV vs. a Corolla. > Efficiency above 80% is clearly worse than below 80%. I drove 30k miles in a Tes…
I am not certain it's because of the lack of regen. On road trips you're mainly doing motorway driving anyway.
My point about safety is that extra weight is inherent to the technology and the alternatives available (combustion engine). Horses were not an alternative to the model t in the same way.
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not a troll. I was talking about safety for the drivers in the car that collide with the EV. They are less safe with EVs on the road. When we have marginal electricity pricing, and electric cars necessarily being marginal demand, then they will ramp pricing a lot for all users , not just those driving electric cars. This far outweighs the benefit of grid balancing services (which this green revolution has creat…
I think you know this is propaganda. I know that you won't, but anyone else reading this might like to look up the weight of the most popular vehicles sold in the US. You might be surprised that virtually none of the heaviest ones are BEVs.
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#57Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#58Are they “cleaning” or just not producing as much dirty? Semantics…
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#59To those wondering about tire wear: "Despite the slightly higher levels of tire wear from EVs, brake dust was found to be more unhealthy, as brake dust is much more likely to become airborne (>40%) than tire wear is (1-5%). So EVs create a lot less of the worse thing, and a little more of the less-bad thing."
So it's even more good news. Yet another way EVs are better.
It's not you, it's definitely me. I cannot tell if there is irony or a 'straight-faced' comment that you wrote.
Either way, like always, time will tell. We (humans) almost never 'get it right the first time'. And perhaps EVs have been around for quite a while now, it's still 'a while'. So I wouldn't be surprised if the lobby for "7PPD" (or whatever replacement) convinces us that "7PDD" is the best and even makes fish taste better, only to find out that it causes terminal cancer (see smoking, sugar, etc.)
Re: Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%
#60I'm glad that they address the increased tyre wear pollution. I'm not entirely(!) convinced that EVs only have slightly increased wear as there seems to be plenty of reports of EVs going through tyres a lot quicker though estimates do seem to vary from about 30% to 50% more wear. (Also great that the report mentions the importance of walking/cycling for city transport)
Please stop it with the tyre nonsense. The world is burning. Hundreds of millions people are going to die. We have a solution… and you won’t let us use it because it increases the rubber levels in people who lick tyres. As if that matters. So what if there are more rubber particles in their mouths? We can eliminate vehicle pollution!
Rubber particles from tires are one of the main sources of microplastics.