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Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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I loved Pocket. I used it nearly daily. I was often in their top n% of users. I paid for it. Then one day they changed the way their rendering worked on iOS. And it destroyed my workflow. I also bought a Kobo E-Reader specifically to use Pocket with it. In short order I found an open-source alternative - Omnivore - and spent my time hacking away at my Kobo to get it to pull from there instead. https://github.com/Podg…

It's ironic that the device that is supposed to facilitate reading(e readers) makes it so hard to read articles from the web.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

#543
When Mozilla got Pocket, they advertised it all over Firefox to increase adoption. Back then, I was like "but I already have a bookmark feature". Over all these years I have hidden the Pocket button away because for most people there's no strong incentive to switch from a normal bookmarking solution (and now, with only a hand full of websites in major use, even bookmarks have lost all meaning).

Good riddance?

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Mozilla is more occupied this days paying multi milionary bonus to its executives and begging users for money they waste on useless projects. Mozilla must die, so Firefox can live.

mozilla has been broken for a long time. spiritually and intellectually, brave is the successor

From what I understand, Brave is a shit-show in its' own right.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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I'm very sad about this. The one feature that I really like is that you could read articles offline. Any good alternatives? (saves this HN post to Pocket to come back to it later to see replies)

I've been using Instapaper for years and have always been very happy with it.

Glad to hear :-)

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Pinterest sold it in 2018. The founder is Marco Arment, he's not the one who bought it back. But yes, instapaper is still alive. https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/instapaper-is-leaving-pint...

Ah, OK - I must have misread the bit about who bought it from Pinterest.

It's me. For what it's worth I was involved with Instapaper at betaworks (after Marco sold it to betaworks), and Pinterest sold it back to me. Been 12 years with it now!

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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I'm curious what the governance structure of Mozilla is that keeps things this way. People have been upset for quite a while at the direction Mozilla is going in, yet there seems to be no coalition to oust the current leadership. Is this impossible for some reason?

The leadership has been ousted. > This includes major growth in our Boards, with 40% new Board members since we began our efforts to evolve and grow back in 2022. We’ve also been bringing in new executive talent, including a new MoFo Executive Director and a Managing Partner for Mozilla Ventures. By the end of the year, we hope to have new, permanent CEOs for both MoCo and Mozilla.ai... With these changes, Mitchell B…

It's good to know they have brought in new talents.

Note that Mozilla Corporations, Mozilla Ventures, and Mozilla.ai mentioned in the articles are all subsidiaries of Mozilla Foundation. If there are issues with the subsidaries' leadership, they could be easily removed by the foundation. If there are issue with Mozilla foundation's leadership then, according to the bylaws, it's not possible for the foundation's board to be removed unless they self remove.

Section 3.3 Election Of Directors, Term. All directors of the Foundation shall be elected annually by the Board of Directors and shall hold office until their respective successors are elected and have qualified, or until their death, resignation or removal.

Section 3.5 Removal. Any director may be removed from office, with or without cause, by the vote of a majority of the other directors then in office.

https://static.mozilla.com/foundation/documents/mf-bylaws.pd...

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Nothing about the communication at the time indicated that publishing the source code would happen gradually over a decade. For all intents and purposes, what was promised was that it would be open source within some reasonably short time frame.

Having worked on a similar endeavor, I doubt they intentionally dragged their feet on it. They likely had a smorgasbord of legal bullshit and technical challenges resulting from code omissions mandated by said legal bullshit that they had to muddle through.

I don't care. Don't promise to do something like that if you can't follow through. Nobody forced them to promise to open source Pocket (although that promise certainly helped the bad PR of integrating a closed source service into Firefox!).

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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The DoJ is arguing in court that Google should be barred from paying off Mozilla because of Google's search monopoly https://www.theverge.com/news/660548/firefox-google-search-r...

That's so hilariously backwards. Google should be split into several business units [1], should be forced to give up Chrome [2], and should be forced to invest several billion of its war chest into competitors. That's what the DOJ would do if it still had balls. The fact that there's no money in a product like Firefox is insane . It's absolutely bonkers. There is so much value in it, yet everybody's favorite mega mon…

> The fact that there's no money in a product like Firefox is insane.

What do you mean? There's a huge amount of money, via getting paid to route people to a search engine.

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