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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by gausswho »

kepano wrote: post #272

I built Obsidian Web Clipper (open source, MIT) to replace my read-it-later app and save everything to local markdown files. Now that Obsidian Bases is available, it makes for a very nice web archival tool and reading experience. Here's a video: https://mastodon.social/@kepano/114553164915046938 You can use Web Clipper with any app that supports Markdown, not just Obsidian. Defuddle is the underlying HTML-to-Markdown…

Thank you for your work on this! It's become my go-to since leaving Pocket.

I do have a bug report: even when explicitly specifying which vault to send clippings to, what I experience is that it sends to my last opened one. On Android w Firefox Nightly and the extension.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by alwillis »

nine_k wrote: post #249
segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

> available in every other browser Isn't it because almost every "other browser" reuses the Chromium engine? Or is Firefox trailing even mobile Safari here?

> Or is Firefox trailing even mobile Safari here?

Short answer: yes.

Here are some web platform features Chrome and Safari (desktop and mobile) are shipping but not Firefox:

* Container Style queries: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat...

* @scope: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat...

* Picture in Picture: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat...

* View Transitions: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat...

* Cross-document view transitions: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat...

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by modzu »

major505 wrote: post #247
segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

Mozilla is more occupied this days paying multi milionary bonus to its executives and begging users for money they waste on useless projects. Mozilla must die, so Firefox can live.

mozilla has been broken for a long time. spiritually and intellectually, brave is the successor

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by fkfyshroglk »

toyg wrote: post #340
skrtskrt wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi is starting to build their Orion browser which is WebKit-based for Linux as of this year. I never do anything close enough to the browser engine to know, but apparently devs like WebKit a lot?

Devs like WebKit because it's easy to integrate in non-browsers.

...is there a better reason to like webkit? Chromium certainly doesn't make effort to seem appealing to developers outside of its association with WebKit.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by cosmojg »

mort96 wrote: post #321
Vinnl wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't started in 2025, it's a process that's been going on for years. (Presumably, but I don't actually have more information here, the pre-acquisition codebase couldn't easily be open sourced without rewriting for legal reasons, e.g. copyright residing with someone else.)

Nothing about the communication at the time indicated that publishing the source code would happen gradually over a decade. For all intents and purposes, what was promised was that it would be open source within some reasonably short time frame.

Having worked on a similar endeavor, I doubt they intentionally dragged their feet on it. They likely had a smorgasbord of legal bullshit and technical challenges resulting from code omissions mandated by said legal bullshit that they had to muddle through.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by creatonez »

0x0 wrote: post #342
thayne wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari only exist on Apple devices, and generally had even less features than Firefox.

> Safari only exist on Apple devices Webkit, at least, builds on a lot more platforms than you think. Take a look at https://build.webkit.org/#/builders I'm seeing at least three other MAJOR platforms: • GTK-Linux-64-bit-Release-Build • PlayStation-Release-Build • Windows-64-bit-Release-Build

And just a tip, if you don't have any Apple devices but need to test a bug/inconsistency being reported by Safari users, you can usually use GNOME Web (Epiphany) and the same behavior will usually manifest, since it is a true Webkit browser. It also includes the Web Inspector with the exact same interface as Safari. And it's not super outdated or anything like that, it tracks Webkit quite well nowadays.

It's a bit ironic that Webkit started as KHTML, a component of KDE, but eventually made its way to GNOME when a Gecko-based Epiphany became hard to maintain.

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