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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by 0x5f3759df-i »

kristopolous wrote: post #516
kochb wrote: post #20

Don’t miss this bit. Currently enrolled students are going to need to find a new university. > In a news release, the Department of Homeland Security sent a stark message to Harvard’s international students: “This means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students, and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status.”

Ah yes, this is how we will be competitive - defunding universities, deporting the best and brightest, dismantling education, and cutting off trade. I mean seriously, if a malicious saboteur was running things, what would the differences be?

They’d probably try to be more subtle about it.

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Post by gigatexal »

Trump: I’m dumb and want to make everyone else dumb too so I can be the smartest among the dumb dumbs. I know! I’ll prevent the best and brightest from abroad who pay full tuition to attend the best American universities because I’m a xenophobe. I’m so smart!

MAGA destroying universities smh.

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Post by makeitdouble »

munchler wrote: post #486
input_sh wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even more specific: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

The name is as dumb as the movement. Do they not realize that the word “enlightenment” has the word “light” right there inside it? It’s like asking for cold hot water.

Using cognitive dissonance is a tried and true way to stop people from thinking too much about what you're really trying to say.

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Post by pedroma »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #66

I get flak for hating Republican voters with the general feeling of most people being that voters are not responsible for the officials THEY elected to represent them. I still haven't found a valid argument for why a voter isn't held responsible for the actions of representatives. Especially if the actions would be likely to occur.

I would just never vote if that's the case.

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Post by [deleted] »

ethbr1 wrote: post #382
pfannkuchen wrote: post #354

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One explanation might be that the objects of their influence are nested within agencies. Most presidents let the agencies run mostly unsupervised, it seems like. With the agencies now under heavy fire structurally, they may not be able to do what they would normally do to prevent this kind of thing. I think the whole agency model gives the president way more power than they are meant to have. I guess this exists to s…

The intent of agencies was three-fold: 1. As the US grew and the workload required to govern it grew, Congress' ability to directly and quickly manage the country was outpaced. Consequently, agencies served as the grease between Congress' high-level actions/funding and the low-level implementation. 2. Due to the ever-adversarial nature of Congress, it was recognized that most Congresses operated slowly, and consequen…

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Post by rchaud »

scoofy wrote: post #138
dragontamer wrote: post #70

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> We’d be much better off with a president Vance. Vance literally defended the eating cats and dogs lie during the debate. The entire fucking point of this platform is to fuck the immigrants, legal or otherwise. Or is this actually a surprise to anyone with half a brain?

Donald Trump is genuinely an idiot and deeply and obviously corrupt. I don’t like Vance, I’m still going to be mad at his agenda, but he’s generally intelligent. He’s not going to run the country into the ground because he doesn’t understand how fixed income securities work or give away national security to fly in an obviously bugged luxury plane for funsies. At the end of the day, there are different levels of terri…

Lots of people are "intelligent", yet you would never want to be under their rule.

Vance is a useful stooge handpicked by Peter Thiel. If push comes to shove, do you think his Yale degree is going to give him any backbone if he's ordered to do something that violates the Constitution? Did Yale provide John Yoo with one when he wrote legal memos justifying the torture of detainees held without charge in Guantanamo 20 years ago? Yoo was ready to ignore the Geneva Conventions then, and Vance is ready to deport US citizens now.

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Post by suzzer99 »

jaoane wrote: post #474
jorblumesea wrote: post #455

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neo-fascism because eggs were expensive, nice job American voters.

It's not surprising that people chose being able to afford food over intellectualism.

They chose transphobia and xenophobia over intellectualism. Eggs were just an excuse to nudge them in the way their amygdalae wanted to go. See: Trump telling his base to suck it up on egg prices, and suddenly no one cares anymore.

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Post by epolanski »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #283
kochb wrote: post #20

Don’t miss this bit. Currently enrolled students are going to need to find a new university. > In a news release, the Department of Homeland Security sent a stark message to Harvard’s international students: “This means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students, and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status.”

Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…

He's 78 and at the end of his political career in few years, he could care less.

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Post by skeeter2020 »

delichon wrote: post #418
xhkkffbf wrote: post #339

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A friend is a big Harvard alum. He says that most of his classmates are very unhappy with the direction of the university. So in his circle the alumni may be cheering this on. Maybe not the extremism but the general idea of telling Harvard that it needs to get back to truth-seeking.

Bill Ackman may be the most visible. Billionaire hedge fund manager. He's a Jew who is horrified by the school's tolerance for pro Hamas protests. He was a big Democrat supporter before that, including for Obama, Booker, and Cuomo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ackman

it seems what all of these powerful, big thinkers are actually mad about is a school's tolerance for , the very thing that graduates of prestigious institutions don't need to like but should understand.

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Post by input_sh »

zeven7 wrote: post #475
input_sh wrote: post #442

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Even more specific: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

That is extremely concerning

Curtis Yarvin really needs to become a household name in a know-thy-enemy sort of way.

That should've happened back when J.D. Vance was even announced as Trump's VP pick. That should've happened even more back when Yarvin attended Trump's inaugural gala as a guest of honour.

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