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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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If you are a Republican, you DID sign up for this. None of this has been kept secret.

Sometimes you sign up for things, because the advertisment did look great. But then, at one point, you want to cancel that subscription.

This was all advertised. And you can’t cancel a subscription for a president. You got it for for years, more if he figures out a way to stay.

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Education is obsolete thanks to AI. US is just ahead of the curve as usual. (/s in case it wasn't obvious)

I'm sure all the foreigners denied entry to Harvard will be happy to attend Trump University instead. /s in case not obvious

They couldn't even if they wanted to, because that scam was shut down in 2011.

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If you are a Republican and didn’t sign up for this, can you please write your representatives about impeachment? This is getting ridiculous. We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

People need to write their representatives. Volume of responses is what Congresscritters respond to.

Party doesn't matter. Ds need to inform their R Congresscritters every bit as much as any other combination.

For what it's worth, Republican constituents overwhelmingly voted for Trump in the R primary. Any number of candidates would have provided boilerplate Republican policies, but that wasn't what they wanted.

What Trump is doing is what these voters want.

And there's no limit. It's become an illiberal pro-authoritarian movement. It's in-progress.

Pick something you care about and defend it. It can't be everything all at once at all times, no one can do that.

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I feel US higher education, which brain drains the rest of the world, is easily one of the best strategic advantages it could have for the next 100 years. Let’s throw that all away because learning is liberal.

The action by itself comes as a punishment which imply that this is indeed great resource but because Harvard was a naughty boy means that can't have it. I want to note that when Brexit happened EU citizens had about 2 years period to move to UK and just like that get their full rights there and those with enough years of stay had the right to obtain British citizenship. Streamlined process through scanning your id u…

Oxford, Cambridge, ETHZ, EPFL, etc. are probably salivating right now.

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A judge has already blocked the move. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/judge-blocks-tr... > A federal judge in California has blocked the Trump administration from terminating the legal statuses of international students at universities across the U.S.

It doesn’t matter, the damage is done. If you’re an international student, are you going to risk an El Salvador gulag?

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I get flak for hating Republican voters with the general feeling of most people being that voters are not responsible for the officials THEY elected to represent them. I still haven't found a valid argument for why a voter isn't held responsible for the actions of representatives. Especially if the actions would be likely to occur.

Exactly what “consequence” are you talking about? Voting by design is protected from retribution.

It's more of an ethical question. Were the people who voted for Hitler bad people because they voted for a bad person? I'd argue that they were. You can't just vote for a horrible person and then say you had nothing to do with the consequences. I'm not the one you replied to, but I assume this is something family related, a la "just because grandpa voted for Trump doesn't mean he's a bad person".

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I feel US higher education, which brain drains the rest of the world, is easily one of the best strategic advantages it could have for the next 100 years. Let’s throw that all away because learning is liberal.

The action by itself comes as a punishment which imply that this is indeed great resource but because Harvard was a naughty boy means that can't have it. I want to note that when Brexit happened EU citizens had about 2 years period to move to UK and just like that get their full rights there and those with enough years of stay had the right to obtain British citizenship. Streamlined process through scanning your id u…

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If you are a Republican and didn’t sign up for this, can you please write your representatives about impeachment? This is getting ridiculous. We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

The problems at Harvard and other high ed organizations are real. They've become pretty unhinged and concentrated, they really need to work on getting back to "open forum for discussing all ideas" rather than the "Open forum for discussing all correct ideas" that they have drifted into. I can see it first hand through my mother, who works at a major school. That being said, republicans decided to chose an M1 Abrams t…

But Trump adminstration is so much worse here, they ban stuff based on word lists and kick people with wrong ideas out of the country.

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If you are a Republican and didn’t sign up for this, can you please write your representatives about impeachment? This is getting ridiculous. We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

The probability of impeachment succeeding at this time is effectively zero.

Impeachment is the wrong tactic at this moment. Eroding support of the less hardline members of the party is key. Call your reps and say I didn’t sign up for this: [specific list of things]
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