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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by tormeh »

neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

Isn't a lot of the appeal of Trump that he does not owe anything to these power networks? Others in the Republican party may do so, but Trump has the Republican party well under control, and so doesn't have to listen to anyone. Trump has drained the previous swamp and erected a new one, and Harvard never got an invitation.

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Post by jandrewrogers »

dudinax wrote: post #114
kitsune_ wrote: post #11

Insane how freely the US is giving away its status as a brain drain magnet (context: I'm European).

Has there ever been an empire that committed suicide at the height of power?

All of them. "Height of their power" is a retrospective take.

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Post by ben_w »

orochimaaru wrote: post #164
Braxton1980 wrote: post #66

I get flak for hating Republican voters with the general feeling of most people being that voters are not responsible for the officials THEY elected to represent them. I still haven't found a valid argument for why a voter isn't held responsible for the actions of representatives. Especially if the actions would be likely to occur.

Exactly what “consequence” are you talking about? Voting by design is protected from retribution.

Presumably https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Leopards_Eating_People%27s_Fa...

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Post by ceejayoz »

Boogie_Man wrote: post #90
Braxton1980 wrote: post #66

I get flak for hating Republican voters with the general feeling of most people being that voters are not responsible for the officials THEY elected to represent them. I still haven't found a valid argument for why a voter isn't held responsible for the actions of representatives. Especially if the actions would be likely to occur.

In what way would you like to hold them responsible? If there are reprisals for voting, do we live in a liberal democracy? Edit: If by "hold responsible" you mean "be mad at them" then yes, of course you can, I can't read a comment section that isn't mostly that, and you knew that before making this comment.

> In what way would you like to hold them responsible?

Being shamed into a little introspection wouldn't hurt.

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Post by dekhn »

msabalau wrote: post #63
dekhn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The probability of impeachment succeeding at this time is effectively zero.

Even if impeachment is off the cards, is it impossible to imagine that there could be any sort of impact from Republican lawmakers hearing Republican voters that, or other things are not what they voted for or want?

Not at this time, and I don't see it changing enough in 3 years to make any difference. The fear of being attacked by MAGA is still very high, I think the (older) republican leadership has decided to just wait this out.

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Post by boothby »

apercu wrote: post #92

If you voted for this admin, please go get your own flag and give me mine back.

Careful what you wish for, the last change to the US flag appears to have been accomplished through an executive order. If isn't a red field with a gold T in the middle come July, I'll be moderately surprised.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-3351-...

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

bogwog wrote: post #67
HEmanZ wrote: post #21

I feel US higher education, which brain drains the rest of the world, is easily one of the best strategic advantages it could have for the next 100 years. Let’s throw that all away because learning is liberal.

Education is obsolete thanks to AI. US is just ahead of the curve as usual. (/s in case it wasn't obvious)

I'm sure all the foreigners denied entry to Harvard will be happy to attend Trump University instead.

/s in case not obvious

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Post by woopwoop »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #66

I get flak for hating Republican voters with the general feeling of most people being that voters are not responsible for the officials THEY elected to represent them. I still haven't found a valid argument for why a voter isn't held responsible for the actions of representatives. Especially if the actions would be likely to occur.

Most people don't think hard or carefully about politics, and their political views are a very tiny fraction of what they give to the world (this is true even for most people who do think hard and carefully about politics, by the way). Their vote is never pivotal, and their views do not shape any major institutions.
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