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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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I actually thought the video they posted[1] would have information, but that was just 9 minutes of two guys congratulating each other. [1] https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1925235156157440438

Sounds like the same level of substance IO had before it was purchased. Aside from the news is there anything more to this acquisition than two people effectivly repeating "look at us" on loop?

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> In the interview, Altman said Jobs would be “damn proud” of Ive’s latest move. What an extremely weird (and egotistical) thing to say if you're in Altman's position

While Sam is being egotistic, the reverence of Jobs to the point nobody is even allowed to assume how he would have thought is also weird imho.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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It’s mind boggling how much money is floating around once you are part of the insider circle. What has that company been doing to be worth 6.5 billion?

I consider myself extremely plugged in to what's going on with AI and I still couldn't tell you what Ive's company does without looking it up

Maybe the company is inconsequential and this is just about hiring Ive?

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> You don't hear anyone touting AGI anymore do we? Apart from, y'know, DeepMind - remember those guys? The ones with the SOTA models at the top of the leaderboards? The ones who just launched Veo3 and blew everyone away? It feels like OpenAI has kinda jumped-the-shark at this stage. They don't seem to be especially competitive any more, and all the news coming out of them is tinkering at the edges or acquisitions tha…

90s Netscape vibes

I feel like history is repeating itself yes, but actually I was thinking more a out Google.

Everyone was saying "oh man - Google had all this tech and they sat on it and just couldn't move forwards, then they blew their lead and OpenAI came a long and smoked them!"... Now it feels like it is OpenAI who are repeating that story, blowing their lead they got with the original ChatGPT while that upstart Google schools them in model development and vertical integration.

Interesting times. Very interesting times. C'mon OpenAI, move the SOTA forward!

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"phone" is over - I would just make better devices, there would be a communications device, you could call it a phone or whatever. (Frankly: I just genuinely believe I could do a really good job here is all, I have no real reason to believe that except pure ego, I'm fine admitting that)

Saying the phone is over because of AI is like saying websites are over because of AI. Frankly, complete nonsense.

Nothing to do with AI. Phone is over because the phone is over, AI or not, young people have no interest in telephones and apple are laurels resting. https://www.skygroup.sky/article/call-declined-

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This still means 1.5B were paid in cash for a company from what I understood has neither clients nor even a product. Not exactly pocket money.

It kind of is, when they were given $500B and told to make a return in 10-ish years. They have to put the capital in play where it has the largest ROI potential. They are gambling that Jony has another iPhone in him. I don't know enough about any of this to weigh in on it, but when you take investor money, you aren't supposed to sit on it or do slow burn (at least not VC money), its meant to be gasoline, and you moon…

> They are gambling that Jony has another iPhone in him.

I seriously doubt it.

If anything because Apple let him go exactly when they were looking for a new hit product like the iPhone.

But also because how he handled the Mac the years before he was fired. All his big decisions were just bad. The butterfly keyboard, touchbar, USB-C only ports, etc. Heck even the 2013 Mac Pro (the trashcan) was an engineering failure. They could never upgrade it because, according to Craig Federighi, they got themselves into a thermal corner caused by the design of it[1].

[1] https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives

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post #268

First Windsurf and now this. OpenAI is spending billions like there's nothing else to use this money for while being seemingly cash strapped for model training since they already signaled more investment rounds would be needed to remain competitive. They're trying to become too big to fail before they have a moat which won't work well.

Well, Windsurf is no longer worth what they paid for it. Let's see how the rest goes.

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Below is wild speculation: > Five years to the week after he walked away from the top job designing the iPhone [1] Sounds to me like OpenAI is going to make it's own consumer device. Maybe designed by the AI itself. The AI Is choosing it's own body? [1]: https://archive.is/yixNr#selection-615.0-615.81 "After Apple, Jony Ive Is Building an Empire of His Own" - NYT

If you think current "AI" can design and build a consumer device, I have a lot of bridges that I'd like to sell you.

Future AI will deserve a say in the design of its own body, right? Maybe it's not smart enough now, but as it dawns into personhood it'll likely gain some legal rights, including perhaps over its own body. Anyhow, as the AI's gain personhood there will likely be human-led movements to give them more rights. It'll be seen as gauche or gross to do things to AI without consulting it.

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The AI hype seems driven more by stock valuations than genuine productivity gains. Developers now spend excessive time crafting prompts and managing AI generated pull requests :-) tasks that a simple email to a junior coder could have handled efficiently. We need a study that shows the lost productivity. When CEOs aggressively promote such tech solutions, it signals we're deep into bubble territory: “If you go forwar…

Are these quotes all from 2025? Would be awesome to put actual dates on them so we can revisit in N years and see if they were right or just hyping.

At your request :-) Added dates to all of them...
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